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Pop Apologists

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A podcast by two sisters who care about celebrities as much as their family.

  1. 1D AGO

    300: Lily Allen Pens Scathing Album about David Harbour’s Cheating + The Row Sample Sale Mass Psychosis

    Lauren and Chan are back for Episode 300 (!) and the pop culture chaos did not take a week off. From The Row’s unhinged sample sale — where minimalism met full delusion — to Lily Allen’s scathing divorce album, the girls unpack every inch of the internet’s collective spiral. They also dive into Lori Loughlin’s marriage fallout (and the rumors that won’t die), Nara Smith’s suspiciously glamorous postpartum content, and why men — from Hugh Jackman to David Harbour — will, indeed, fail you every time. (00:00:00) — Back in the studio: weekend wedding + running into an ex - the reality vs our fantasies. (00:18:00) — The Row sample-sale deep dive: lines, $900 blazers, and why the internet lost it. (00:24:00) — Row receipts: what actually looked good (and what looked like Banana Republic). (00:29:00) — Lori Loughlin & Mossimo Giannulli: rumors, strip-club reports and prenup talk. (00:41:22) —Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau seen leaving Crazy Horse in Paris. (00:45:00) — Nara Smith: postpartum photo debate — virtue messaging vs. thirst trap. (00:52:00) — Trigger Warning: the new, horrifying allegations against Prince Andrew. (01:04:00) — Lily Allen — West End Girl: the album as a breakup audiobook + David Harbour fallout. Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS10 at checkout for 10% off your order. EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off. Booking.com: Book today on the site or in the app! Clean Safe Products: Go to Cleansafeproducts.com/POP for $15 off the Green Mitt Kit. Dime Beauty: Head to DimeBeauty.com and get 20% off your first order with code PODCAST20 Function Health: Visit www.functionhealth.com/POPAPOLOGISTS or use gift code POPAPOLOGISTS100 at sign-up to own your health. Revolve: Shop at REVOLVE.com/POP and use code POP for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 21m
  2. OCT 22

    299: J Lo’s Ex Loses It on IG, Gwyneth Fires Back at “Hack” Amy Odell + Prince Andrew’s Total & Complete Downfall

    Lauren and Chan are back this week breaking down the royal exile heard ’round the world — Prince William reportedly won’t invite Prince Andrew to his coronation. Then, Gwyneth Paltrow calls her biographer a “hack” (and compares herself to Steve Jobs). Jennifer Lopez’s ex-husband also reappears with a full Notes App essay, Kristen Bell accidentally offends the internet, and The Louvre’s missing jewels become the chicest crime of the year. 00:00 — Chanler’s influencer trip with Courtney & Lauren’s water crisis in Puerto Rico 09:10 — The viral “money must flow” theory and Ben’s reaction to spending 11:05 — Kristen Bell’s dark anniversary caption during Domestic Violence Awareness Month 24:30 — Gwyneth Paltrow’s British Vogue interview and her “hack” comment about Amy Odell 31:10 — J.Lo’s ex-husband’s unhinged Instagram essay about their 11-month marriage 40:55 — John Stamos calls Lori Loughlin’s ex “a terrible narcissist” 48:55 — The Mango founder’s deadly “fall” and suspicious family drama 58:40 — The Louvre’s crown jewel heist — how it happened in 7 minutes 1:04:20 — Prince William won’t invite Prince Andrew to his coronation — Booking.com: Book today on the site or in the app! Clean Safe Products: Go to Cleansafeproducts.com/POP for $15 off the Green Mitt Kit. Cozy Earth Direct: Head to cozyearth.com and use our code POP for 40% off! Function Health: Visit www.functionhealth.com/POPAPOLOGISTS or use gift code POPAPOLOGISTS100 at sign-up to own your health. Wayfair: Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. Macy's: Shop at macys.com or in stores now! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 8m
  3. OCT 17 • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    taylor announces 6-part eras doc, kim k drops bombshells on chd, + rhoslc recap

    Airplane delays, a $700 “cardstock” lamp saga, and then straight into the pop-culture bloodstream: Taylor’s six-part ERAS docuseries (!!), Kim on Call Her Daddy (the prank texts, Kanye co-parenting, Rob & Caitlyn teases), Gwyneth’s British Vogue week (Kylie reveal + Goop culture talk), a perfect RHOSLC episode (zip-code wars, black-card moment, Terrance the “intuitive”), a quick Sister Wives check-in, K-Fed’s press tour, and a listener Q about a “friend” who called her wedding ring ugly. Chaos, clarity, and clapbacks—wrapped in one spicy Friday drop. oct 17 fri - global elites Timestamps 00:00 — ✈️ Cold open: PR↔NYC travel + runway purgatory 01:30 — 🛋️ Chanler’s $700 “paper” lamp saga & refund emails 13:10 — 🎤 Taylor Swift ERAS docuseries: what we want to see (spray tans, toe spacers, room-service orders, Travis moments) 20:00 — 🎙️ Kim on Call Her Daddy: prank texts to Kris/Kylie/Kourtney, dating, Kanye co-parenting, and season teases 33:45 — 💉 Facelifts in the wild: Kris, Bradley, Brad, and the “uncanny” line 38:40 — 🧴 Gwyneth in British Vogue: not knowing it was Kylie, Goop “toxic” culture chatter 42:30 — ❄️ RHOSLC perfection: fairy brunch blowups, zip-code one-upmanship, Angie K vs. Lisa, Mary one-liners, Terrance the intuitive 50:10 — 🖤 The Amex black card moment & what it actually means 55:00 — 👩‍👩‍👧 Sister Wives: Mary speed-dates; “chess career” move 57:10 — 📚 K-Fed press + Britney: why it feels gross 59:00 — 💍 Listener Q: friend called my wedding ring ugly—what do I do? (Answer: dump the “friend”) 1:00:10 — 💞 Sign-off & what’s next

    1 hr
  4. OCT 15

    298: Our Injector Answers ALL Your Questions 💉💋 Beauty & Aesthetics DEEP DIVE ft. Allison Lester PA

    We sit down with NYC dermatology PA and friend of the pod, Alison Lester, for a deep, practical walk-through of modern aesthetics. We cover when to start Botox (and how often), why provider credentials and restraint matter, what’s actually behind the “no-tox” scare posts, and the truth about filler—migration, overfilling, dissolving, and why “villain era” is mostly bad work, not bad products. We also map a sane skincare routine (the three essentials!), tackle melasma without wrecking your skin barrier, compare lasers (IPL/BBL vs. Clear + Brilliant/Moxi vs. CO₂), and get real about masseter Botox, jowls, Sculptra, Morpheus8, and surgical timing. High-yield, no gatekeeping. 04:45 — 🧠 How to choose a qualified injector (credentials, ethics, taste) 07:10 — 💉 Botox 101: When to start, 12–16 week cadence, “collagen paperclip” analogy 12:00 — 🧪 Botox brands explained (why Alison prefers on-label Botox for predictability) 19:20 — 🚫 “No-tox” & safety: botulism fears, real risks vs. viral anecdotes 22:00 — 🧵 Filler truth: migration, overfilling, ethics, and why good work is invisible 28:15 — 😊 Smile lines & “smoker lines”: skin boosters, lasers, Botox microlines strategy 31:10 — 👀 Under-eyes & dark circles: pinch test, lasers vs. bleph, why under-eye filler is rare 37:30 — 🧴 Skincare that works: the 3 essentials (antioxidant/Vit C, sunscreen, retinoid) 43:00 — 🌫️ Melasma game plan: low-and-slow, microneedling, Pico/Clear + Brilliant, TXA/Botox microdosing 46:30 — 🛠️ Devices decoded: IPL/BBL, Clear + Brilliant/Moxi, CO₂; when each shines 48:00 — 📉 Morpheus8: where it helps… and where it’s overhyped (fat loss risk) 49:30 — 🧯 Sculptra: what it is, where to place, surgery considerations 54:00 — 😬 Masseter Botox & jowls: who’s at risk and how to counteract it 56:30 — 🔪 Early jowl fixes vs. facelift timing; neck bands & prejowl filler 1:02:00 — 🧼 Dissolving filler: myths, ultrasound, and maintenance mindset 1:06:00 — 🪞 Aesthetic dysmorphia & “filler blindness”: evolving standards of beauty 1:09:00 — 🧠 How injector perspective changes over time 1:12:00 — 🗣️ Seeing natural aging vs. intervention signs 1:21:00 — 🌕 Best lasers for pores + “moon crater” fix talk 1:24:00 — 🔥 Fraxel vs. Clear + Brilliant / Moxi / Ultra for melasma 1:27:00 — ⚠️ Laser heat depth and flare risk 1:30:00 — 💡 LED vs. laser masks 1:33:00 — 🧴 Skincare layering & barrier repair 1:36:00 — 💊 Retinoids, exfoliants, and realistic routines 1:39:00 — 🧍‍♀️ Long-term maintenance mindset 1:45:00 — 🚩 Provider red flags & aesthetic ethics 1:48:00 — 🔮 Future of injectables and devices 1:54:00 — 🧭 Virtual consults, office info, and booking process 1:57:00 — 🗽 Alison’s NYC location + pricing overview 2:00:00 — 💕 Wrap-up + goodbye Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS10 at checkout for 10% off your order  EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off Clean Safe Products: Go to Cleansafeproducts.com/POP for $15 off the world’s easiest soft surface cleaning solution. Functional Health: Visit www.functionhealth.com/POPAPOLOGISTS or use gift code POPAPOLOGISTS100 at sign-up to own your health. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Quince: Go to Quince.com/APOLOGIST for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    2h 2m
  5. OCT 10 • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    are taylor and blake still friends??, goddess nicole kidman at the chanel show, travis kelce's thoughts on 'wood'

    We open in full “Friday feelings” chaos—mortality spirals, WS Merwin gut-punch poetry, and a very unwell Taylor release-week debrief—before getting granular on Fate of Ophelia (MV supremacy), the Great Variant Economy, and Travis/Jason’s “🌲” banter on New Heights. Then: are Taylor & Blake…fine? Signals say yes. We pivot to Nicole Kidman’s Chanel/Vogue glow-up and why her post-Keith era reads victorious, not victim. A palate cleanser via Tim + Faith’s anniversary gush restores our faith in love, and we close with a tough RHOSLC segment: Bronwyn vs. Mom and what “parenting out loud” can (and can’t) hold. New here? Jump in anywhere—timestamps below. Timestamps 00:00 — 😵‍💫 Chaotic cold open, late-night anxiety, and the “parents’ mortality” spiral (WS Merwin cameo)06:30 — 🧠 Why guilt is a “comfortable” emotion + meds during launch week confession12:30 — 🎧 Taylor release-week fog, fandom dynamics, and album expectations (Tolstoy vs. bops)18:30 — 💃 Fate of Ophelia MV: dopamine machine, showgirl moment, and lyric talk23:30 — 🥏 The Variant Industrial Complex: records, countdowns, and where the Easter-egg magic breaks30:00 — 📺 Press-tour highs & lows (Opal Light on repeat; Graham Norton notes)32:00 — 🌲 “WOOD” on New Heights: Jason asks, Travis coy; redwoods vs. maples 😂36:00 — 👯 Sisterhood of the Traveling… Signals? Blake Lively, “our friend,” and détente reading43:00 — 👶 The ill-timed “babies?” question; why Graham shut it down (media-training masterclass)45:00 — 👑 Nicole Kidman’s Chanel/Vogue era, daughters by her side, and the post-Keith phoenix arc53:30 — ❤️ Tim + Faith anniversary caption = restorative love vitamin56:00 — 🧨 RHOSLC: Bronwyn vs. Mom—control, shame, and why “open parenting” is still parenting

    1h 12m
  6. OCT 6

    297: TAYLOR SWIFT THE LIFE OF A SHOWGIRL ALBUM REVIEW! ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

    It’s The Life of a Showgirl week, and Lauren & Chanler are in full Swiftie-monastery mode 🎧🥂. From champagne chaos to lyrical deep dives, the sisters break down Taylor’s new album track by track — from the haunting beauty of “The Fate of Ophelia” and the cinematic glow of “Elizabeth Taylor,” to the swagger of “Father Figure” and the ache of “Eldest Daughter.” They unpack fan theories, emotional whiplash, and what this new Taylor era really says about growing up in public. 🔥📚 00:00 — 🥂 Cold open: champagne mishap, “we’re ensconced,” and setting the stage for Showgirl 03:40 — 🎧 First-listen vs. private-listen energy — what this album demands from its listeners 07:05 — ✨ A special message from Lauren for Swifties contending with this album 11:15 — 📈 Lyric discourse & “range” talk — the internet’s hottest takes meet Pop Apologists analysis 16:50 — 🌀 Track 1: The Fate of Ophelia — Hamlet lore, megaphone/TNT references, and dance-bop redemption 21:00 — 💍 Track 2: Elizabeth Taylor — Portofino, engagement reads, and “cry my eyes violet” becomes canon 29:20 — 🌈 Track 3: Opalite — opal-sky joy, lightness after darkness, and a subtle jab at the phone-obsessed ex 36:40 — 🕴️ Track 4: Father Figure — Borchetta-to-Braun power flip, mob-movie fantasy, and “this empire belongs to me” 47:10 — 💌 Track 5: Eldest Daughter — internet apathy vs. sincerity, bridge of the album, “I said I was busy — that was a lie” 54:25 — 🕯️ Track 6: Ruin the Friendship — false Blake Lively hopes, grief, nostalgia, and second-period heartbreak 1:03:00 — 💋 Track 7: Actually Romantic — the Charlie XCX feud unpacked, petty meets poetic 1:11:50 — 🪩 Track 8: Wi$h Li$t — ambition, consumerism, and the cost of wanting everything 1:19:15 — 🌲 Track 9: Wood — sensual domestic peace and the “grown-up” Taylor love song 1:27:05 — 🔥 Track 10: Cancelled! — chaos, commentary, and whether it’s satire or self-own 1:34:30 — 🍯 Track 11: Honey — sweetness, defiance, and soft healing energy 1:38:10 — 🎭 Track 12: The Life of a Showgirl (ft. Sabrina Carpenter) — a shimmering closer on fame, femininity & control Clean Simple Eats: 20% off at CleanSimpleEats.com/POPAPOLOGISTS20  EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS. Cozy Earth Direct: Head to cozyearth.com and use our code POP for 40% off! Nature’s Sunshine: 20% off your first order plus free shipping. Go to naturessunshine.com and use the code POP at checkout. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Revolve: Shop at REVOLVE.com/POP and use code POP for 15% off your first order. #REVOLVEpartner Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 39m
4.6
out of 5
3,191 Ratings

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