When using idp-group: subjects in grants (e.g. with Okta), there is no way to verify that a specific IdP group claim is arriving at the server. swamp access group list only shows local groups, not IdP groups. Operators must write a grant targeting an IdP group and then test it to confirm the claim is being received — there is no observability into what groups the server has actually seen.

This makes it difficult to:

Verify Okta group claim configuration is correct
Debug why an idp-group: grant isn't matching
Audit which IdP groups have been observed across all authenticated users
Confirm case-sensitive group names match exactly (matching is strict Map.get())

Proposed solution

Add a subcommand to swamp access that enumerates IdP groups the server has seen. For example:

swamp access group list-idp --server wss://...

This could aggregate groups from all active server tokens (the data is already stored — each server token's data record contains a groups array). The output would show:

Group name
Number of active tokens/users with that group
Last seen timestamp

This should require read on access:group (same as swamp access group list).

Workaround today

Operators can use swamp access token list --server --json and aggregate the groups arrays from all tokens, but this requires admin access and manual processing.

Alternatives considered

Exposing the raw token list is too privileged for this use case
access.check includes groups in its response but requires admin on access:* and is per-principal
access.can-i shows the caller's own groups but not all groups system-wide

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