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Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card
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DNF at 52%


Dear Orson Scott Card,


There are over 3,310,480,700 women in this world.

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Sincerely, Women.


Dear Fans of This Book Who Are Probably About To Make An Angry Comment On This Review:

Please leave now if you don't want to get all huffy and insulted and make a comment defending the author or whatever other shit that is this book.
Or, if you want, go ahead. If you're going to comment, at least read the whole review and not just a quarter of it. I'm so sick of repeating myself over and over in the comments.
Yes, I bash the author first, but I do make my points on why I hated the book itself, and not just because of him.

Thank you.

Sincerely, Kat.


First of all, before I get into the book, I'd like to say that Orson Scott Card is one of the biggest dicks on this Earth. For those of who don't know, he is openly homophobic and a hyprocrite (www.salon.com/2013/05/07/sci_fi_icon_... )). He is a Chauvinist (known to believe that women are the weaker sex and were only put on this world to make babies). He is a Mormon that, from what I've heard from people who've read his other books, tries to convert you in his own writing in his novels.

Just for this author's personality, this book deserves one star.

But now onto the actual book, which deserves one star in itself.


The Author's Viewpoints Leak In

It starts out well enough. It's interesting and keeps your attention. But immediately, the sexism shows its ugly face;


"All the boys are organized into armies."
"All boys?"
"A few girls. They don't often pass the tests to get in. Too many centuries of evolution are working against them."


Keep in mind that this book is supposed to take place in the future. There are several things wrong with this sentence.

1. In this day and age, thousands of women are in the military and fighting for their country. They have been for decades now, and longer still. So if this is supposed to be in the future, does Card think that women will give up their ability to fight so easily?

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2. Centuries of evolution working against them? On what terms? That we have ovaries? That we can have babies so are therefore unfit to fight or have the mental capacity to pass the tests boys can easily pass?

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This is the 21st century, genius. Women work. Women are in the army. Get your head out of your ass and look around, for fuck's sakes.


Characters

I feel that Card made all the characters far too young. Ender is six, Valentine is eight, and Peter is ten. Peter has a fetish for torturing squirrels and threatening to kill his siblings.
Um, okay? Is there any explanation for this strange behavior? No, because according to this book, all our kids in the future are fully functioning psychopaths. (Except the girls, of course. They're too 'mild' for behavior like that.)
In the future, the army is apparently full of kids barely older than six, up to age twelve. To be trained for a war that, as far as I could tell from the point I got to, was already won.

Writing

The writing was atrocious. Card switches from third person perspective to first person constantly. The first person switches are for the character's 'thoughts', but the words aren't italicized or anything so you can never tell.
To me, that's a sign of bad writing. If you can't stick with one kind of perspective, than you should go back to those non-existent creative writing classes.

Plot

Towards the middle of the book, the plot started to seriously drag and get outright ridiculous. Valentine and Peter start planning to 'take over the world' by writing fucking debate columns. Not only is the whole 'let's rule the world' concept highly overused, it's poorly planned out. It's randomly thrown into the story like, "Okay, we need more villains and more things happening, so let's make the ten year old girl and twelve year old murderous boy try to take over the world!......with debate columns."

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Sure.


Then, switching back to Ender, who is now nine years old and a commander of his own kid army, we have our main character turning into the bullying idiots that bullied him in the beginning of the book. Has he learned nothing? Oh sure, it makes the kids 'better soldiers'. They're not even seven years old, they are not fucking soldiers. The whole story is a fucked up version of a 'kid military' which is run by controlling adults who don't want the war to end so they can remain in power.
It--just--ugh.

It got so tedious and irritating that I decided to give up on it. I'm not going to waste my time with a book written by a sexist, homophobic, dickwad. I'm not even going to see the movie, which is a real shame because I love Asa Butterfield. I feel bad that he was brought into such a stupid book/movie business.






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Reading Progress

May 6, 2013 – Shelved as: to-read
May 6, 2013 – Shelved
June 4, 2013 – Started Reading
June 4, 2013 –
page 24
7.41% ""All the boys are organized into armies."
"All boys?"
"A few girls. They don't often pass the tests to get in. Too many centuries of evolution are working against them."


What the fuck does he mean by that? Working against us how? In physical strength? Mental strength? I can't tell whether to be insulted or not."
June 4, 2013 –
page 68
20.99% "Even if I end up liking this book, I'm still going to give it a low rating just because the author is a pile of shit. Now that I've started, I'm not going to stop but the rating will still be low."
June 4, 2013 –
page 77
23.77% "Okay, randomly slap the only girl in the room. Okay. Why? There was no reason for the guy to do that. Just because she was a girl who spoke to him out of line? The fuck?"
June 4, 2013 –
page 80
24.69% "Card's writing is irritating me. It's confusing and I can't tell when certain things happen. Like, this one sentence threw me off;

"She was naked when I came in, wasn't she?"

I read over the past two pages twice to try and find out where that could have been and found nothing of the sort."
June 6, 2013 –
page 137
42.28% ""You will too."
"And someday when they catch us and they wonder why your sister was such a warmonger, I can just bet you'll tell them you told me to do it."
"Are you
sure you're not on your period, little woman?"

Excuse me?

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June 6, 2013 –
page 144
44.44% ""You read the Bible?"
"We're doing classics this year in advanced English."


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The Bible? A classic? IN ENGLISH CLASS?

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I seriously doubt they'd make you read the Bible in fucking English."
June 6, 2013 –
page 168
51.85% "It's becoming exceedingly hard to get into this. It's boring and just plain stupid. I might not even finish it because it's just pissing me off. I'm sick of reading books that I don't enjoy. It takes the joy out of reading."
June 7, 2013 – Shelved as: couldn-t-finish
June 7, 2013 – Shelved as: le-sigh
June 7, 2013 – Shelved as: not-worth-the-hype
June 7, 2013 – Shelved as: take-yo-sexist-ass-out-of-here
June 7, 2013 – Shelved as: watch-for-flying-tables-everybody
June 7, 2013 – Finished Reading

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Dear Faye This one is seriously good. Read it soon!


Nadine Hmmm so far you don't make me really want to read this book... :-( my thought was to read it before watching the movie. Now I'm not so sure... I truely hope it's getting better! :-)


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Orc "Are you sure you're not on your period, little woman?"




Kat (Lost in Neverland) Is that a Jigglypuff crossed with a bug Pokemon?


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Orc Yes.
I made that image.
It's beautiful.


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Orc Allow me to suply you with this gif:




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Orc Reading the bible in English.


Kat (Lost in Neverland) Ehehehehehehe!


Spider the Doof Warrior See, I have so many problems with this book having read it several times such as if Ender is such a genius why do they have to torment him? Dumbledore knew Harry was all that and a bag of chips but he didn't isolate Harry and keep him from making friends like they did with Ender. Basically they tortured the lad and were like, but it's for the greater good that we are traumatizing children.

Jerks.


Spider the Doof Warrior Also, cut you with my cheekbones? LOL! https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.ne... would go well with a Kaoru picture.


Kat (Lost in Neverland) Synesthesia wrote: "Also, cut you with my cheekbones? LOL! https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.ne... would go well with a Kaoru picture."

HAHA. I'm usually not one to notice cheekbones, but damn, that guy has some prominent ones.


Spider the Doof Warrior Yes, he has some lovely chiseled sharp ones.


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Bennett I love Asa Butterfield, too.

Oh my gosh, these kids are six? This should be a picture book for that age level!

This author sounds likes a jerk. If it's in the future, then why would all of these things decrease in progression? Idiotic. He is.


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Mizuki My freaking goodness, I didn't know Card said that women are unfit to fight or join the army!!!! Freaking dickhead! He pisses me off!!!


Spider the Doof Warrior Me too. He frustrates me.


Spider the Doof Warrior Hmm. Good comparison. And it's in SPACE too.


Kelly (and the Book Boar) Leslie Knope gifs for the WIN! I've never read this/added it to any to read lists for the simple fact that Card may be the biggest douchenozzle in the literary world. Your review confirms that I am correct : )


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Mizuki Synesthesia wrote: "Hmm. Good comparison. And it's in SPACE too."

Like I had already said before: if I wanted to write a book to badmouth women and homosexual, I'll make sure to set my story up IN SPACE, 100 years in the future. So when people call me out for being an anti-gay, anti-women asshole, I can snap back at them saying "MY STORY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT POLITICAL AFFAIR WHATSOEVER!"


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I dropped it around the same place. Beyond any personal issue, I was getting depressed by the atmosphere. I'm so glad I'm not the only one that's missing the cheering parade


Kat (Lost in Neverland) Wart (What the Hell is a Hufflepuff?) wrote: "not to mention some men have ovaries and some women have penises, but I'm pretty sure if you ran that one by Card he'd stick his fingers in his ears and sing LALALALALALALALALA"

Yes yes yes, that is exactly right.


Aishah Another stupid review written by another stupid barely-there human being!
If judge a book by its author, why did you even touch it?
I'm a girl, a feminist, and I managed to quite easily catch on the image of the society Card wanted to paint for us.
Go find your brain.


message 23: by Mizuki (last edited Dec 11, 2013 02:34PM) (new) - added it

Mizuki Well, Maria; please behave yourself before you bring even more shame on all the feminists out there. I've never heard being a feminist entitled you to call other people stupid because they don't share your opinion.

And if you like reading so much, read some Feminism For Beginners books before you start playing the female card and the feminist card when commenting on other people's review. By doing so you would be doing a big favor to the entire female population. One less fake-feminist in existence is always better than one more.


Spider the Doof Warrior All he DOES is put his prejudices in his work. It's gotten worse. Like Ender in Exile was just nag nag nag marriage and babies heterosexuality. You as a feminist should find it annoying that he hates feminists and thinks a woman's place is in the home having 50 babies.


Andrew Failure to separate art from the artist makes this an inherently bad review.

Yes, Orson Scott Card is a prejudiced human being and he inserts is maniacal ideas into his later books fervently. That said, those themes are really not present in this book. There are some quips here and there, like ONE quote you pulled, but besides that they are not the prevalent overriding themes about xenocide, war, questioning authority, etc.

Keep the social justice warrior stuff on tumblr (along with the meaningless gifs)


Spider the Doof Warrior He should stop being such a prejudice bag of dicks.

And wtf was up with that? Was it circumcised? The dude with it was Jewish, but some Jews are against circumcision too.

He said really stupid things about circumcision as well. It is NOT a stupid issue if you think both men and women deserve the right to decide about their bodies.


Andrew "Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men have been selected, sexually and genetically, to hunt kill and be killed. Women have been selected to be caregivers. This wasn't due to some inherent prejudice or hatred for women in the system. Most species have used these forced roles for survival purposes, though some have switched it around (see: seahorses).
While these roles are not necessary today, and increasing amounts of people have been able to break out of them, Card is describing a physical, mental, and social evolution over time that has made men more inclined to participate in war - and that's not necessarily a good thing.

That said, if it's far enough into the future, one might expect these evolutionary effects to not be as relevant


Spider the Doof Warrior Really? You're as hyper simplistic about the complications of human behaviour as OSC.


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Bern Andrew wrote: "There are some quips here and there, like ONE quote you pulled, but besides that they are not the prevalent"

So, because he only says it once, it's okay to be a misogynistic moron?


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Orc either way can you please move this stupid fucking argument off of Kats review


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Bern Goose Fart Bitch wrote: "Andrew wrote: ""Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men hav..."


Plus, I have a feeling Card would very much dislike this talk of evolution, seeing as how he's a mormon and all. So really, Andrew isn't even fit to defend Orson.


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Yo Yo sup dude


Spider the Doof Warrior He uses evolution to support his stupidity...


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Orc Andrew wrote: ""Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men have been selected..."


Okay, right, kindly take a cactus and insert it into your anus and/or any gentitalia permitting a big enough hole, that you possess. Now, leave, and while you're at it, think about the fact that you essentially just proposed that biologically women need to be protected their entire lives, because at some point they may fall pregnant and for nine short months, be less likely to engage in strenuous activities as it could be damaging to their child.


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Orc Now, I'm just going to leave and continue my man slaughtering parade of not shaving and converting young girls to lesbianism. As I'm a feminist and that's what we do in our free time.


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Orc Goose Fart Bitch wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Now, I'm just going to leave and continue my man slaughtering parade of not shaving and converting young girls to lesbianism. As I'm a feminist and that's what we do in ..."

I have no idea what that means, but, just in case, I was being childishly sarcastic, as that's what occupies 75% of my personality.


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Orc Goose Fart Bitch wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Goose Fart Bitch wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Now, I'm just going to leave and continue my man slaughtering parade of not shaving and converting young girls to le..."

Ah, ahaha. Wouldn't that be childish sarcasm though?


Kat (Lost in Neverland) Andrew wrote: ""Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men have been selected..."


Oh no.
No, you are not pulling out this sexist shit on my review.

Women have NOT been selected as caregivers over millions of years. Very recently, as we have just started to begin reanalyzing previously claimed notions of women and men in early society, archeologists have discovered the prints found on cave walls thousands of years old were from WOMEN, not men.
They were thought to be (assumed is more likely, since most of the archeologists were men at the time) male hunters that had laid claim over the caves, but it was actually female hunters that killed (yes, killed, because women aren't dopey little baby makers while the manly men take control) and hunted for their families.

In Greece, although it's mythology, women called the Amazons were female warriors, vicious and skilled in battle and survival. There has been evidence that they were inspired by real women in parts of Greece.

In ancient Sparta, girls were trained in physical challenges and sports just like boys. Women themselves were held higher than other ancient societies. Girls would compete in the Olympics and other sports events, fighting and competing alongside the men and boys.


Animals? Oh hoh. Honey, don't even get me started. Let's see here.
Lions are widely known to have the females hunt and kill and bring meat to the family while the males stay and watch over the cubs and rest of the pride.

There is a species of spider in which the male must dance to impress a female and if the female is dissatisfied with him, she will proceed to brutally kill and consume his body.

Or snakes? Shall I go onto the snakes, who usually abandon their eggs shortly after laying them?

Or maybe we'll look at bees. Bees, in which all 'workers' are female (they build the hive and keep the entire thing running) and the males are simply drones used for mating with the Queen bee, who die quickly after mating with her because there is no other use for them.

Or, oh this is a favorite, the angler fish, in which all of the large fish of the species is female and the male is tiny compared and its only function in life is to mate with a female.

Many bird species use the male as the caregiver while the female can build a home or obtain food. The penguin is an obvious example of this relationship, when the male keeps the egg safe and warm while the female travels with other females of the species to get food.

Don't even fucking give me that 'survival roles' crap when you don't know two fucking shits about it.


Aishah Mizuki wrote: "Well, Maria; please behave yourself before you bring even more shame on all the feminists out there. I've never heard being a feminist entitled you to call other people stupid because they don't sh..."

Share your opinion only when it's constructive, not when it barely stands! That's what brought shame to us!


message 41: by Kat (Lost in Neverland) (last edited Dec 11, 2013 11:04PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Kat (Lost in Neverland) Goose Fart Bitch wrote: "Andrew wrote: ""Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men hav..."


*applauds* I'm so happy right now. You, along with every other lovely person who helped shoot these ignorant dickheads down, are awesome.
And yes, angler fish are brilliant.


Aishah Wart (What the Hell is a Hufflepuff?) wrote: "Andrew wrote: ""Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men hav..."


Thank you!


message 43: by Orc (last edited Dec 11, 2013 11:07PM) (new)

Orc Kat (Le Pauvre Cœur) wrote: "Andrew wrote: ""Centuries of evolution working against them" is not really an offensive statement. You can interpret it as one, but it's fairly on target, factually.
Over millions of years men hav..."


Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the males.


Aishah Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the males."

May I ask you a question, Lime-kun? Is their stupidity and self-righteousness contagious?


Kat (Lost in Neverland) Maria wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the males."

May I ask you a question, Lime-kun..."


You can't catch what you already have, darling.


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Orc Maria wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the males."

May I ask you a question, Lime-kun..."


No, you can fuck right off.


Aishah Kat (Le Pauvre Cœur) wrote: "Maria wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the males."

May I ask you a ques..."


So you ARE full of it, huh?


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Orc And I'd appreciate it if you didn't put "kun" on the end of my name. It's condescending as fuck and putting a suffix on a nick name is annoying.


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Orc Maria wrote: "Kat (Le Pauvre Cœur) wrote: "Maria wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the ..."

You know, you could've italicised the are. It'd have looked less... Disney villain-y.


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Kat (Lost in Neverland) Maria wrote: "Kat (Le Pauvre Cœur) wrote: "Maria wrote: "Lime~ Lollibomb Lee wrote: "Dear sweet lord, thank you sempai. Don't forget the spotted Hyenas! Where even the lowest ranking females are fed before the ..."

The fact that you are repeatedly coming back to this review (I'm not sure why you did in the first place, considering a mature person wouldn't lash out at anyone who doesn't like what they like by making childish remarks and comments), shows that I'm not the self-righteousness one here. And since when is broadcasting one's opinion self-righteous?
Please leave before you embarrass yourself any more than you already have.


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