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Hiroshima Nagasaki
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Judging by the two extremes ratings that this book received in Amazon, one can tell that this is a rather controversial book. The author did not think that the atomic bombs made Japan surrender which in turn avoided the loss of lives of many Americans who would otherwise have to invade the main islands of Japan. But his position was not just that the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unnecessary, he went further to obliquely imply that the reason for dropping the atomic bombs were for the pure purpose of killing civilians.
The author argued that the atomic bombs were unnecessary by showing that:
Fire bombing was not an effective strategy to make an enemy surrender
In support of this argument the author spent a chapter on the fire bombing of cities in Germany. Meant originally to bring Germany to its knees, the effectiveness was questionable and eventually Germany capitulated not because of the destruction of any or all of the cities but because of the land forces of the allies that reached Berlin.
The Japanese cabinet was not swayed by the atomic bombs
The author argued strenuously that the Japanese cabinet, especially the three (of six) representing the military, the War Minister Korechika Anami, the admiral in the Imperial Japanese Navy Soemu Toyoda and general in the Imperial Army Yoshijiro Umezu. They did not change their minds after the two bombs were dropped. It was actually the entry of Soviet Union into the war that convinced the Japanese cabinet that all was lost and surrender was inevitable.
The Japanese were going to surrender anyway
Citing the futile and delusional efforts at getting Russia to play the role of the intermediary for an end to the war, the author showed that the Japanese were already seriously contemplating an end to the war (in contrast to unconditional surrender). It would be a matter of time, given Japan’s lack of ability to deploy air or naval power, that they would collapse.
These would have made for a persuasive case but Ham went further and opined that despite all these, the US bombed Japan anyway and it was not really because the decision makers wanted to save American lives, but because “total war had debased everyone involved…” (pg 158) and made it easy to contemplate the destruction of properties and lives on a grand scale, not helped by many who were spoiling to demonstrate the new power of the US.
The author then went further to imply that putting the blame on the Japanese for not surrendering despite the warnings was wrong because the Allies kept insisting on ‘unconditional surrender’, a term which at first confused the Japanese and later became the only stumbling block to their agreement to surrender because they were afraid that the Americans would try the Emperor as a war-criminal. In the end unconditional or not, was this not what the Japanese got? Knowing this the Americans should have just relented earlier, let them surrender and the bombs and the resulting carnage would have been spared. And if the Americans had really wanted to drop the bombs, the morally right thing to do was to give warning by demonstrating the power of the bombs given that it was so much more destructive than anything anyone knew then. Finally, even if one argues that Hiroshima was necessary and effective, there was no need for Nagasaki.
And since the bombs were used despite all reasons against them, the author brought us through the aftermath of the bombs, showing how many civilian targets were destroyed and how many of them were killed, maimed or suffered the radioactivity for years while the military targets were somehow missed (pg 410). To add insult to the injury, the victims were denied medical help and were in some cases treated as exhibits for research into the effects of radiation. Finally in the years following the end of the war, the main players could only manage incoherent narratives as to the reasons and effects of the bombs, further attesting to the difficulty in justifying their use.
The author was indeed persuasive. However as I read the book, I could not help wondering if the problem was one of hindsight. Take for example the case of area bombing. Its limits in persuading the enemy to surrender are recognised now because it was used then. Given that prior to the Second World War there was no precedence for one to learn from, it was reasonable that looking at how much fear it could instil in the enemies, this could be an effective way to get the enemy to surrender. Similarly while it is increasingly recognised that the Soviet Union’s invasion of Manchuria greatly accelerated Japan’s capitulation, how could one know then what we know now?
The author also did not give complete consideration to the whole context of the situation. For example it was not that the Japanese military had retreated from island to island and finally were confined to their main islands. They were still in Manchuria and also countries in South East Asia. To blockade them to starvation would mean a prolonged occupation of these places by the Japanese. If I were living under the Japanese then, I would wish for the bomb.
One important question was whether Nagasaki was necessary. There was a sense in the book that people realised the devastation the first bomb brought to Hiroshima and were no longer elated about Nagasaki, seeding some doubts in the readers’ minds about the correctness of its use. How should one decide whether or not to drop the second bomb given that the first one did not seem to get the Japanese to surrender? Was it really ineffective or did it just didn’t move them enough, in which case perhaps another bomb was in order?
Questions aside, there were a few chapters in the book that I like very much. The first one being the chapter on the science and scientists behind the atomic bomb which brought back good (and not so good) memories of my school years. The second one was the chapter discussing the Japanese’ deliberations over how to end the war, it was a very nuanced discussion about the Japanese psyche (which I cross-examined with Kazutoshi Handō’s Show Shi). There was this element of (pardon me) “smoking their own dope” where they would know the undesirable outcome if the Russians were to invade Manchuria. And since it was undesirable, it should not happen, and if it should not happen, then it would not happen. Therefore it was conceivable to get the Russians to mediate an end to the war.
The author also gave a very vivid description of the condition of the victims in the two cities immediately after the bombs were dropped. These represented the two times so far that atomic weapons were used on cities. Alas as tragic as they were, it failed to arouse in me the feeling of sympathy and I even felt that the descriptions were slightly over done, especially when he gave some statistics on civilian versus military casualties. I could not help wondering if he was steering readers to the conclusion that the bomb was selective; dropped on a city with both civilian and military targets, the civilian targets would be obliterated while the military ones intact. The indifference I felt towards the victims was at first curious to me given that I bear no hatred towards the Japanese today. This has made me re-examine my attitude towards Japan today. While I am not going to discuss it here, I have to give the author credit for doing this for me.
A reviewer in Amazon said that this book is only for people who can think for themselves. I would not say that, I would encourage people to read this book but to temper it with other books to put things in a better context.
The author argued that the atomic bombs were unnecessary by showing that:
Fire bombing was not an effective strategy to make an enemy surrender
In support of this argument the author spent a chapter on the fire bombing of cities in Germany. Meant originally to bring Germany to its knees, the effectiveness was questionable and eventually Germany capitulated not because of the destruction of any or all of the cities but because of the land forces of the allies that reached Berlin.
The Japanese cabinet was not swayed by the atomic bombs
The author argued strenuously that the Japanese cabinet, especially the three (of six) representing the military, the War Minister Korechika Anami, the admiral in the Imperial Japanese Navy Soemu Toyoda and general in the Imperial Army Yoshijiro Umezu. They did not change their minds after the two bombs were dropped. It was actually the entry of Soviet Union into the war that convinced the Japanese cabinet that all was lost and surrender was inevitable.
The Japanese were going to surrender anyway
Citing the futile and delusional efforts at getting Russia to play the role of the intermediary for an end to the war, the author showed that the Japanese were already seriously contemplating an end to the war (in contrast to unconditional surrender). It would be a matter of time, given Japan’s lack of ability to deploy air or naval power, that they would collapse.
These would have made for a persuasive case but Ham went further and opined that despite all these, the US bombed Japan anyway and it was not really because the decision makers wanted to save American lives, but because “total war had debased everyone involved…” (pg 158) and made it easy to contemplate the destruction of properties and lives on a grand scale, not helped by many who were spoiling to demonstrate the new power of the US.
The author then went further to imply that putting the blame on the Japanese for not surrendering despite the warnings was wrong because the Allies kept insisting on ‘unconditional surrender’, a term which at first confused the Japanese and later became the only stumbling block to their agreement to surrender because they were afraid that the Americans would try the Emperor as a war-criminal. In the end unconditional or not, was this not what the Japanese got? Knowing this the Americans should have just relented earlier, let them surrender and the bombs and the resulting carnage would have been spared. And if the Americans had really wanted to drop the bombs, the morally right thing to do was to give warning by demonstrating the power of the bombs given that it was so much more destructive than anything anyone knew then. Finally, even if one argues that Hiroshima was necessary and effective, there was no need for Nagasaki.
And since the bombs were used despite all reasons against them, the author brought us through the aftermath of the bombs, showing how many civilian targets were destroyed and how many of them were killed, maimed or suffered the radioactivity for years while the military targets were somehow missed (pg 410). To add insult to the injury, the victims were denied medical help and were in some cases treated as exhibits for research into the effects of radiation. Finally in the years following the end of the war, the main players could only manage incoherent narratives as to the reasons and effects of the bombs, further attesting to the difficulty in justifying their use.
The author was indeed persuasive. However as I read the book, I could not help wondering if the problem was one of hindsight. Take for example the case of area bombing. Its limits in persuading the enemy to surrender are recognised now because it was used then. Given that prior to the Second World War there was no precedence for one to learn from, it was reasonable that looking at how much fear it could instil in the enemies, this could be an effective way to get the enemy to surrender. Similarly while it is increasingly recognised that the Soviet Union’s invasion of Manchuria greatly accelerated Japan’s capitulation, how could one know then what we know now?
The author also did not give complete consideration to the whole context of the situation. For example it was not that the Japanese military had retreated from island to island and finally were confined to their main islands. They were still in Manchuria and also countries in South East Asia. To blockade them to starvation would mean a prolonged occupation of these places by the Japanese. If I were living under the Japanese then, I would wish for the bomb.
One important question was whether Nagasaki was necessary. There was a sense in the book that people realised the devastation the first bomb brought to Hiroshima and were no longer elated about Nagasaki, seeding some doubts in the readers’ minds about the correctness of its use. How should one decide whether or not to drop the second bomb given that the first one did not seem to get the Japanese to surrender? Was it really ineffective or did it just didn’t move them enough, in which case perhaps another bomb was in order?
Questions aside, there were a few chapters in the book that I like very much. The first one being the chapter on the science and scientists behind the atomic bomb which brought back good (and not so good) memories of my school years. The second one was the chapter discussing the Japanese’ deliberations over how to end the war, it was a very nuanced discussion about the Japanese psyche (which I cross-examined with Kazutoshi Handō’s Show Shi). There was this element of (pardon me) “smoking their own dope” where they would know the undesirable outcome if the Russians were to invade Manchuria. And since it was undesirable, it should not happen, and if it should not happen, then it would not happen. Therefore it was conceivable to get the Russians to mediate an end to the war.
The author also gave a very vivid description of the condition of the victims in the two cities immediately after the bombs were dropped. These represented the two times so far that atomic weapons were used on cities. Alas as tragic as they were, it failed to arouse in me the feeling of sympathy and I even felt that the descriptions were slightly over done, especially when he gave some statistics on civilian versus military casualties. I could not help wondering if he was steering readers to the conclusion that the bomb was selective; dropped on a city with both civilian and military targets, the civilian targets would be obliterated while the military ones intact. The indifference I felt towards the victims was at first curious to me given that I bear no hatred towards the Japanese today. This has made me re-examine my attitude towards Japan today. While I am not going to discuss it here, I have to give the author credit for doing this for me.
A reviewer in Amazon said that this book is only for people who can think for themselves. I would not say that, I would encourage people to read this book but to temper it with other books to put things in a better context.
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Chin Joo: An excellent review! I think you had it right with your statement that the "problem was one of hindsight." The points against usage of the atomic weapons were clearly determinable only after the war and upon subsequent investigation.
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A fine review Chin Joo. Historians and commentators will naturally be influenced to a degree by hindsight and their own views, but by extension it adds a layer of interpretation to arguments that can then be considered and discussed; and Mr Ham's book sounds like it does that.
Thank you all.
Carl, I feel the same way about the position of the author and that was why I was unsure how to rate the book. A one-star in Goodreads means "I do not like it". However I think the book was well written, so I would be unfair to the author if I rated it poorly.
Having said that, Geevee's comment (above) reminded me that maybe I should take the availability of hindsight into consideration when I read a book. That will add a new dimension to my reading of similar books in future.
Carl, I feel the same way about the position of the author and that was why I was unsure how to rate the book. A one-star in Goodreads means "I do not like it". However I think the book was well written, so I would be unfair to the author if I rated it poorly.
Having said that, Geevee's comment (above) reminded me that maybe I should take the availability of hindsight into consideration when I read a book. That will add a new dimension to my reading of similar books in future.
I find that's usually a problem people have rating a literary work, some people don't like the characters or story, I say well that means the author did a good job of making the character real, real enough you don't like him/her, therefore well-written.
This doesn't occur as often with a non-ficiton work, but
in this case, yes, you don't agree with the premise, but
he did present his case well.
This doesn't occur as often with a non-ficiton work, but
in this case, yes, you don't agree with the premise, but
he did present his case well.
I just started reading this book. I sometimes move into the book a hundred or so pages then reread or read more reviews to see if they are consistent with what I think (or prior to reading some, to see if I might read it.).
I like your review very much, and I think you are correct. Hindsight. If you ask my dad who was on a transport ship moving Marines to "invade" Japan, he would say to the man every one of them thought that the two bombs were justified in being dropped. They were scared, and very nervous about landing on the main land. They were not looking forward to the job ahead.
When they heard that after these two bombs dropped, none of them worried about the implications other than they were going to be going home alive. They were grateful. So I look at it that way. Had they not dropped, these men, including my father, might not have made it back home.
I am enjoying this book. Very well written and very descriptive. I am only on page 150 or so, but it is keeping my interest high.
I like your review very much, and I think you are correct. Hindsight. If you ask my dad who was on a transport ship moving Marines to "invade" Japan, he would say to the man every one of them thought that the two bombs were justified in being dropped. They were scared, and very nervous about landing on the main land. They were not looking forward to the job ahead.
When they heard that after these two bombs dropped, none of them worried about the implications other than they were going to be going home alive. They were grateful. So I look at it that way. Had they not dropped, these men, including my father, might not have made it back home.
I am enjoying this book. Very well written and very descriptive. I am only on page 150 or so, but it is keeping my interest high.