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In the Woods by Tana French
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it must be really hard to write convincing mystery novels. you can't have your killer be too obvious or no one will bother reading past the third chapter. but you can't have them be too unexpected, without textual support, or you will be accused of cheating. the super-saturation of police procedurals in all their manifestations: literary and film and teevee, sets the genre up for failure - it just adds up to a steaming bowl of repetition and a dessicated medium. there are about five ways a murder plot can resolve itself, and the rest is wallpaper and window dressing.

and then there is this. and for the most part, it falls into the same traps - the main-plot resolution is facile and a little yawn-y, but tana french has massive balls for her treatment of the subplot. she evidently does not care about infuriating her readers. i am reading the second novel now, just out of anger - technically it is for class, but it's above and beyond the demands of the syllabus. i have never read a book out of rage at the author before. can i get a plaque??

and i refuse to say why and how and when this book began to push my wrath-buttons, but push them it did, and those of you who have read this will understand me when i howl, (and maybe one of you can tell me why i am still watching lost when it started failing me like three seasons ago - but this is the diseased impulse we are working with here - i will see this second tana french book through, even though it is not doing for me what i had hoped the first one would do for me. is this coded enough?? good.)

i asked the near-mythical tom fuller about his take on this book, and he said "i liked it until i didn't". which sounds forrest gumpy, but is spot-on the way i felt about it. it has its good points: the irish setting is well-rendered, there are some great descriptions of people, places, and things, the two detectives have a wonderful rapport... until they don't . (see how flexible that kind of assessment is??) it's not all "wee bairns" and Lebor Gabála Érenn, but syntactically it is delightfully irish, and that part of it is a pleasure to read.

dunno - this isn't the worst, i just figured that genre fiction had to play by certain rules in order to be invited into the clubhouse. tana french is a subversive lass, aye, to be sure.

go ahead, read it, and come howl with me.

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February 11, 2010 – Shelved

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brian tanabe Crap, should I move on to another book? Literally just cracked this open today...


karen no! this is awesome - we can chat about it when you finish. it's really not bad, i just so infrequently read mysteries, and when they don;t behave the way i think they "should", i rebel. (by reading the next book in the series)


brian tanabe Ha -- that's how you rebel!?


karen yeah - that'll show her!


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Bill it never ceases to amaze me that there are umpteen million mysteries out there with the same basic plot...dead body (bodies), who did it? the fact that some of the authors come up with something slightly diferent is commendable in my view.


Kristine LOL I'm not sure the second book will make you any happier.




Stephen I love mysteries. They are more pleasant than most people.


message 8: by Stephen (last edited Feb 12, 2010 06:09AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Stephen What's so terrible about mysteries? Snobs. hehehehe


message 9: by D. (new) - rated it 2 stars

D. Pow karen, i actually liked this but understand exactly where and when you stopped liking it. I think.


Stephen It's not the greatest book in the genre. I was just defending the turf, so to speak, lest Frenchie get too uppity. :-)


karen ha! no, theoretically i like mysteries! i love mignon eberhart and i read a loren estleman that i really liked, and law and order is practically a family member. i think the kind of guilty-pleasure mysteries i like the best are family mysteries. set in a victorian era. fingersmith is one of the best books ever, but it's technically more suspense, maybe? i don't know.

and i'm not a book snob, don't you remember my review for monsters of templeton - it has been proven by sceince!

i did like this book, for the most part, but i was frustrated with some of the resolution-choices, which i thought should actually be the strength in this genre. but that's my fault for expectations.

these are all for my reader's advisory class - which i love. some of the books i am not totally looking forward to (the romance streak is about to begin), but it is good exposure. i just thought i would enjoy the mystery segment a lot more, but who knows, maybe it will turn out that i am a huge fam of westerns, against all my expectations.

watch this space.


Stephen Hey Frenchy, about this book -- I agree with you. She is not my favorite author. Honor demanded the genre be defended! Ole!


karen tell me which ones are the best, and i will file them away in my future-brain.


Stephen We'll have to message on this one, because it all depends on what you like. I suggest Stuart MacBride, and Ian Rankin. Both are Scots, and both will boil you booties.


karen i was actually looking at a stuart macbride book yesterday - i was doing returns for the store, and i decided to keep it. it was about cannibalism, so i said "you can stay".

are they written in dialect? i have heard rankin is good. i helped the cutest scottish girl at work yesterday - i have always had a crush on that accent.


Stephen Flesh House is a good one for you to start with. Later in his body of work, not that many books anyway, but this is the one that I think will get you.


karen good, now it is in my mind. then it will go on my tastes like people shelf. yum!


Stephen lololol

That's the way. It's a gritty, nasty, horrible, and edge of the seat kind of book.


karen good - i will shortlist more of his stuff in.


Kelly Karen-

Thanks for the review, I am oh so glad there I am not a lone ranger when it comes to some mysteries. This is a genre that can get too well-done. And your thoughts were the cherry that convinced me all the more!

Kel


karen i know, but i still read her follow up (it was better than this one) and i just bought her third one, but i haven't read it yet. this is the real problem - the addiction. i feel compelled to read them all. oddly, the girl with the dragon tattoo did not make me want to read further. science needs to take a look at this phenomenon, please...


karen thank you!


message 23: by M.T. (new) - rated it 4 stars

M.T. Dahl I'm half way through and feel like I should put it down for now, or forever. (whichever comes first)


karen well, if it makes any difference, i liked her second and third books much better...


message 25: by M.T. (new) - rated it 4 stars

M.T. Dahl karen wrote: "well, if it makes any difference, i liked her second and third books much better..." You would say that... it's still on my Kobo. *hems and haws*


karen halfway?? that's nothing! you can do it!! (just don't expect a wonderful ending...)(sorry)


message 27: by M.T. (last edited Mar 16, 2012 10:16PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

M.T. Dahl Don't worry, I already purposely read a spoiler to dissuade me, then I added it back onto my current list and read some more last night (after your nudged me). I have the other two in the series as well... so it now feels like I should root around and find more about out why I liked TF as a writer in the first place. BTW - Thanks for your reviews, they are entertaining as a few have pointed out, but I'd say it's the shoot from the hip honesty... unabridged, unabashed etc... I just like to see the blood spill!!! I think there's something a bit odd that way with me, I don't really believe the good reviews, I always go to the one or two star reviews (intelligent ones), then go to that person's profile and sure enough I find someone interesting.


karen i don't rate many books with two stars; i try to find redeeming qualities, but the ones i really don't like, well, i cannot lie...


Lisa H. "i have never read a book out of rage at the author before. can i get a plaque??"

This made me laugh, because I had pretty much the same response - and I even made the mistake of assuming that Rob's mystery would be solved in the following book.


karen yeah, nope.

or the next...


or, presumably, the new one.


grrrrrrrr


message 31: by M.T. (new) - rated it 4 stars

M.T. Dahl I even made the mistake of assuming that Rob's mystery would be solved in the following book. lols

grr x 2


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Robert Davis Gee, I was thinking about starting this series because I liked that French uses minor characters as different protagonists in each book. But your review has kind of put me off. I guess I should thank you?


karen no!!! don't!!! i have now read all four, and they get better and better! although i liked the third more than the fourth, but you take my meaning! greg just read this one, and now he is on a tear through her. her books, that is.

i still think i am correct in my assessment, but i am now a tana french convert!


Laura There is a fourth one? I must find it! I only knew of the three!


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Robert Davis Cheers! Then I will start the series. I really like the idea of following peripheral characters into their own stories. Thanks Karen!


karen a close call!!

yeah, the fourth one is just out: Broken Harbour


message 37: by Laura (last edited Aug 14, 2012 09:58AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Laura karen wrote: "a close call!!

yeah, the fourth one is just out: Broken Harbour"


Thanks! I don't know why i keep reading them, i get SO pissed off every time. Probably b/c she is a very, very good writer. (haha i like that sentence - may as well have written "she is one of the goodest writers!")
Well, fucktacks anyway, on we go. :)


message 38: by Lisa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa Great review, Karen. I can so identify with your rage. :)


karen sooooo frustrating...


message 40: by Lisa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lisa karen wrote: "sooooo frustrating..."

Ha ha. I almost rated the book one star out of revenge but cooler heads prevailed in the end.


karen that is very mature of you (:


Marie "I liked it until I didn't" sums up this book so well. Why didn't I think of it first?


message 43: by Lee (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lee Loved in the woods. Didn't mind the lack of resolution at all, thought it was a bold choice. French's delicious delicious prose, I lap it up with a spoon! The likeness was again a joy for her words, but just found the premise so very unbelievable which hampered the enjoyment somewhat. Will read the others soon.


Agnieszka i liked it until i didn't it summs up it perfectly.


karen but! she has that gift of every book being better than the one that came before, and the third and fourth ones are spectacular


Agnieszka karen wrote: "but! she has that gift of every book being better than the one that came before, and the third and fourth ones are spectacular"

I need to check them out , then .Thanks.


karen you got it!


Kristin karen wrote: "yeah, nope.

or the next...


or, presumably, the new one.


grrrrrrrr"


From my understanding, he just goes to the wayside and it the stories continue on with her and the different depts/cases that she moves on to?

The book irked me, but I still loved it. Drove me a little batty not knowing though.


karen the second book is that, yes, and the third book follows someone else, and the fourth one someone else, etc . but each one is better than the last. i am so glad i kept reading her.


Melanie I was very disappointed by this book, and your review made me chuckle- that you read the second book out of anger. I'm mad too, honestly. It's the first time I can remember, where a book just really pissed me off. I wonder if the second book made you as angry as this one did?


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