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Caliban’s War by James S.A. Corey
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bookshelves: 2015, sci-fi, space, vast-conspiracy, expanse, 2017-reread
Read 2 times. Last read April 24, 2017 to May 17, 2017.

**Reread update 5/17/17**

One big thing that stands out to me going back to this after reading all the available books in the series is that my complaint about distinct bad guys not getting introduced until very late in the stories was addressed. From this point on we almost always have a face of the threat through most of the action, and that’s an improvement that made a great series even better.

I also wanted to check this out again after seeing the second season of the TV series. The show has gotten so good that I’m now visualizing all the characters as the actors who play them while reading. There’s also an interesting dynamic in that that the two-headed writer who makes up the James SA Corey name also works on the show, and since they have the advantage of knowing what’s going to happen for the next several books it’s able to shade in lot of character nuance and motivations that were just a little thin and simplistic in the early going.

So now I’m counting the days until the new book publishes and the next season premieres.

(Original review.)
Essentially this is a mix of Game of Thrones and Firefly without all the rape and child burning and people talking like they’re in a western movie.

Humanity has expanded throughout our solar system, colonizing Mars and various moons and asteroids. Since people are always gonna be people, and will therefore suck, political tensions are high between Earth, Mars, and the Belters, and the events of the first book in the series have the threat of war seeming higher than ever. And just like in Westeros everyone is so consumed with their petty scheming and power plays that they’re ignoring the much larger threat that is growing under their noses. So it falls to a crew of misfits running their own ship for profit to step in when the shit hits the air recyclers.

This on-going space opera has sucked me in to its world...er… solar system completely with its spaceships, action, politics, and weird sci-fi elements mixed with just enough humor and emotional weight to give it some heft beyond its pew!-pew! appeal. The characters are well drawn even if they aren’t particularly deep, and their motivations are plainly spelled out in their dialogue. So this is all text, no subtext, but it is entertaining. I particularly liked the new character of Chrisjen Avasarala, a grandmother and UN official from Earth whose little old lady appearance is subverted by her foul mouth and political cunning.

However, the series so far has suffered a bit from not giving us any perspective from the vast conspiracy that is causing so much of the trouble. Granted, some of this has been played as a mystery to solve, but for two books now we’ve gotten no sense of who the bad guys are or what they're planning other than what’s been figured out by the heroes. Both books have finally revealed a kind of mid-level mastermind character near the end, and in both cases these have been full on mustache twirling villains so the threat they pose seems kind of vague and cartoonish.

Still, this one ends on a helluva twist that has me itching to roll right into the next one, and I couldn’t turn the pages fast enough when I was in the midst of this. I’ll be happily returning to the Expanse series as soon as possible.

Plus, this trailer for the show coming to SyFy based on the series has got me even more excited.
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Reading Progress

June 27, 2015 – Started Reading
June 27, 2015 – Shelved
July 5, 2015 – Finished Reading
April 24, 2017 – Started Reading
May 17, 2017 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Trudi (new)

Trudi Look at you churning out the reviews. You're making me feel inadequate. Stop that!

Also, I like this and might have to steal it: "So this is all text, no subtext, but it is entertaining" though the fangirl in me would argue there's always subtext sometimes you just have to scratch a little harder to see it.

Ahem. Also, your nerd is showing. Better tuck that back in there tough guy.


Kemper Trudi wrote: "Look at you churning out the reviews. You're making me feel inadequate. Stop that!..."

I'm not responsible for your self-esteem.

though the fangirl in me would argue there's always subtext sometimes you just have to scratch a little harder to see it.

Not in this case. It's all right there on the surface. No scratching required.

Ahem. Also, your nerd is showing Considering I'm wearing a Marvel t-shirt at the moment I didn't realize that it was seeming like I was trying to hide it.


Kemper Trudi wrote: "Also, I like this and might have to steal it: "So this is all text, no subtext, but it is entertaining" though th..."

I should probably credit The Incomparable podcast for the text vs. subtext thing because they got me thinking about stories like that with their ripping apart of the Star Wars prequels for being painfully direct in the dialogue. However, in this case the dialogue is generally pretty fun unlike those crap movies.


message 4: by Trudi (new)

Trudi Kemper wrote: "I didn't realize that it was seeming like I was trying to hide it ..."

Ah but see you should. Lest your enemies make the grave error of trying to beat you up for your lunch money. Those bodies aren't gonna bury themselves as Amanda can attest.

(Marvel is too cool to be nerd, especially now that I like them)


Kemper Trudi wrote: "(Marvel is too cool to be nerd, especially now that I like them) ..."

Librarian. Stephen King fanatic. Thor enthusiast. Watcher and reader of zombies. Canadian. You got plenty of nerd tendencies. They're just not space sci-fi.


message 6: by Trudi (new)

Trudi LOL None of those things are nerdy!!! Thor appeals strictly on a....ahem... esthetic and mythologically pleasing level. My interest in zombies just proves my sensible responsible attitude towards disaster preparedness. Stephen King is a master storyteller and just proves my love of great literature. Librarians are Amazonian and awesome and should be ruling the world.

As for being Canadian? That just makes me tragically sensible.


friedrich pilley actully the book sounds good


message 8: by Ellis (last edited Jan 13, 2016 08:08AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ellis That's a really good point, and one that I missed because I was too busy swooning over Avarasala yelling about using people's nuts as paperweights. The bad guys are awfully mwah ha ha terrible and (view spoiler) Still in adoration, but it's some explanation in the next books would be nice.


Kemper Melissa wrote: "That's a really good point, and one that I missed because I was too busy swooning over Avarasala yelling about using people's nuts as paperweights. The bad guys are awfully mwah ha ha terrible and ..."

The next one does start putting some faces on the bad guy and the vast conspiracy stuff gets explained, but of course this leads to a whole new set of problems that increase the scale and stakes. And Avarasala is the best. I love that they introduced her early in the TV show, but I'm sorry that it being on SyFy doesn't allow for profanity filled tirades.


Ellis Kemper wrote: "The next one does start putting some faces on the bad guy and the vast conspiracy stuff gets explained, but of course this leads to a whole new set of problems that increase the scale and stakes. "

I can't wait! I can get the next books from the library pretty much now but I'm trying to string them out so I can hopefully finish the fifth right around when then sixth book comes out, but it's hard to tell myself to hold off.


Amadeo Donofrio 'Essentially this is a mix of Game of Thrones and Firefly without all the rape and child burning and people talking like they’re in a western movie.'

- I'd call that an uninspired and inaccurate headline. I like that you are comparing a book to two TV shows. (sarcasm)


message 12: by Kemper (last edited Sep 07, 2016 06:27AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kemper Amadeo wrote: "'- I'd call that an uninspired and inaccurate headline. I like that you are comparing a book to two TV shows. (sarcasm) ..."

Oh, my god you're right! I'm the first person in history to completely fail by comparing a fictional story in one medium to fictional stories in another! To be so stupid as to think that I could do that to provide a shorthand explanation as to what the story and tone felt like and make a joke in the process. What was I thinking?!?

I was so off base about it, too. It's not like Firefly was about a small crew of smart-ass misfits with a spaceship taking on jobs and having adventures while struggling to do the right thing when caught up in the sinister plans of governments and other interests. And to compare it to Game of Thrones was obviously ridiculous. Just because one of the writers worked as GRRM's assistant doesn't make that right when the stories are so obviously different. I mean, The Expanse definitely is not a fantastical story set in an elaborately conceived society about people in power following their own agendas and scheming against each other while ignoring bigger threats and the larger picture.

Seriously, how could I be the only person to compare one series of sci-fi/fantasy books turned into a TV show to another sci-fi/fantasy series of books turned into a TV show with similar themes and story structure?!? I was certainly all alone in thinking that was a good idea!

http://www.thewrap.com/the-expanse-re...

http://www.cnet.com/news/the-expanse-...

http://www.indiewire.com/2015/12/into...

http://www.tor.com/2014/04/14/james-s...

And of course my biggest sin wasn't that I dared to make comparisons to other works I foolishly thought had some things in common with this one. No, it was that I didn't go on from that opening paragraph to explain my thinking in more detail and spend the majority of the review talking about what I liked about the book as well as pointing out a few minor flaws. I certainly deserve to be judged and derided solely on that poor misguided comparison and joke in the first sentence of a larger review I didn't bother to write. (Sarcasm.)

It's people like you who make the Internet what it is. (Sincere, but not a compliment.)


carol. Amadeo, you know it's a tv show, don't you?


William Great review, thanks.


William Be sure to read the side-books on the backgrounds of the main characters. I think it's a great idea to flesh out character histories in separate books.


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