Just to let you know, the system do exist.

And, to be honest, I think there are more than one. The only problem is that you can't find a
winning system on sale, for easy to understandable reasons.
I worked on mine for more than 25 years. I had lost a lot of money during the process, and I
studied a lot of math. Roulette is not a probabilties game (you play too few shots for the rules of
chances to be involved). It is just math, plain and simple.
So to avoid any further question, I will not explain the system (why I should?) and I will not sell it
(I gain enough to have no need of selling it), so my meaning here is to push you all to keep your
studies and your efforts straight towards the desired Eden. I repeat, it is real.
I had read a lot of interesting posts here. Some people look at the tree missing the forest, while
other have a very "hippies" approach (magical relationship between numbers, power of the dealer,
this sort of craps), so I encourage you to go back in matemathics and forget "hot" and "cold"
numbers, or sectors, and handle just the money you got as a bankroll. That is the key. After all
"Martingale" is a winnng system, if it wasn't for the table limit and the need of a huge bankroll to
win a very small amount of money. I guess I already said too much.
Good work to all, and thank you for keeping this forum so amusing.

(I am not an English mothertongue, so forgive my mistakes)

I don't care if you believe it or not. You don't know me and I don't know you, so I cannot see the
meaning of patting myself on the back with people that are completely strangers to me.
I wrote it for the good guys among you that are trying and sometime feels sad because they crash
on a wall of bricks when their system fail, and they read, in places like this, they are chasing a
unicorn. I would like to remember them that even human flight was impossible till someone did it.
In the world there are two kinds of people, the ones who thinks impossible is just another word to
say hard, and the ones who say 'I don't believe it' because they cannot stand they are wrong.
I will not explain my system because I can't understand why someone has to have for nothing what
I spent a life to achieve. I do have enough curious during my game sessions, "discreetely" walking
behind me in order to understand why I am not losing at the roulette, to ask for more.
My system gains 0,25 a shot on average, the bankroll needed is a lot less then 1000 units, and the
longest game has been around 90 spins (I do my calculation without writing down outcomes, so
cannot be accurate on that). The average game lasts five spins.

I repeat, I don't care about your opinion. What I do care is to encourage someone in this chase. I am
sure that anyone with a very good system doesn't share it. I played in Europe, in USA and in
Australia, on boats and on land, and sometimes I saw people play with a system that looks like a
winning one, and they had a confidence that I recognized (never a sign of impatience, not an
eyebrown rised when a strange situation occurred on the wheel, like the same number six times in a
row, and so on and so forth), so I am quite sure I am not the only one.
I studied Pointcarè, Riemann, and many more, then I found a well known system that was a good
one. I worked hard to perfect it, and I did. End of story.
Now, because haters gonna hate, I will be amused by the next replies...

You are the one that spit sentences on everyone else, I see.
I said, on average I gain 0.25 per spin, that means that in 4 spins I gain one unit. Who said 25 unit
per spin? I play an average of two days a week (you know, I have a family and I love to spend time
with them) and I stay at the casino for 8/10 hours each day. I eat, go to the bathroom, walk, grab a
coffee... So playing time is around seven hours.
I play with machines (roulette tables are too slow) so I see 200 spin an hour, that means fifty units.
Moltiply by 7 are 350 units. Machines allows 1, 2, or 5$ units, so I think you can do the rest of the
math.
 I will became rich? I don't care. I have enough, now. If I'd found this in my twenties, probably I
would move inside the casino, with a tent, but I am a lot older, so I am happy with this amount.

The title of my post say everything: "A word of encouragment".

You have no clue about me lying or not. Your prejudice decided that I am a liar, an attention's
grabber. This prejudice is because of your "knowledge" (I should write lack of knowledge).
A better attitude would be "because I don't know, I don't jugde", but it is too much to ask, I guess.
Your Prejudice is built on the fact that you never heard of a winning system, but is like believe that
the earth is flat because is the common belief, and was the situation few centuries ago, despite the
fact that some people already pointed out the truth (Eratostenus, like 2 millenia before).
Hard to believe, I know, but Dr Talos is not my real name. So what kind of pleasure I would have
claiming something like that? I want to sell something? Nope. So?
If you have a winning system, a real one, would you give it away so easily, just to read
compliments and clap of hands on a monitor? I don't think so, especially if you did work hard to
find it. Sure, I could stay quiet, like I am sure many do, but I think a true seeker in a moment of
despair can find some energy in my statement, and keep working.
I will no longer reply, I will not explain it, and I let people find what they want from this thread. I
met a lot of people in my life so stupid to believe that what is between their ears is all that exists. So
be it.

RouletteMan, you are medicine for me.

Are they behind the scam also called Roulette Physics? The people who sell a wonderful machine
for several dozen thousands dollars, machine able to understand that the ball will drop in the wheel,
in a sector with a number on top, that can be red or black or green, 100% sure?
Everything is clear, a blue sky, thank you. I was so pissed today, but now I can sleep with a smile.

How much should be paid a real winning method? Let's say I will ask what I gain in two months, is
this enough?
But you are right, if someone decide to sell it, there is nothing wrong. I think that nobody will do
because you have to ask for a lot of cash. Sometimes you see people sell 100% winning systems for
10$. They claim they get from the system the same amount in 3 minutes, so how can anyone fall in
that trap?
I do use a progression, not as painful and aggressive like Martingale, but not everytime one hit
close the game.

As I said, "Martingale" is a winning system that defeats the house edge. Unfortunately, is
unplayable... So, the task is to create a playable Martingale. Many tried: we have Reverse
Martingale, Fibonacci, and so on. This is the path.
For my experience, any system that tries to predict outcome of future spins is not working, so you
have to consider only math.

You are funny.

Allows me to introduce you to a concept important: what you need is a practical solution, not a
perfect solution. This way, theoretically unsolvable problem can be solved.

Real, you keep saying I wanna sell something. I don't. I do not want to sell it no matter how much
money you, or anyone else, can offer. And, If I do not sell, what make you think I will give it for
free?
I don't ask for applause either. I want to give people some hope, based on my experience. My
system won't last? Fine, that means that I will lose few thousand dollars. In the last for years (little
less) thanks to it, I moved to US with my family, got an Investor Visa (you need 1M$ for that, don't
know if you are aware), and I think I can handle the math god fury on me...
 I think you are missing the point. Mathematically, the same number can hit 10 times in a row. A
very small chance, still could. Never happened, because is not a probability game, as I said in the
first place. My approach to progression is quite unique, for what I see, and it works. Because I am
not the most intelligent man in the world (wasting time with you is quite a demonstration of that) I
think other did, in their very own way. So, for the seekers in this forum, my advise to keep trying is,
I think, useful.
Roulette is a simple game with a small (compared to other games) house edge. We all know that.
Is not the only game where you can beat the casino, and you can understand that just checking in
which game you have limits and boundaries (blackjack and roulette). They (casinos) already found
flaws, and in decades they fixed that. If my way of play became "popular" (selling to one person,
just one, will be the end of it, you understand it, right?), they will change something to cut my
system out.
Did I use enough logic to you?
Never underestimate reasons of others just because you are not in the position to handle their
specific tasks. Being a consistent winner creates a whole new set of problems with casinos.

To RouletteGhost AKA Sherlock Holmes.

A) scam artist who has nothing to sell? Like open a store with empty shelves.
B) this is the only forum I am in, and I did just few days ago after reading posts for quite few
weeks, and found them amusing.
C) a rise? By who and for what? Did I ask for something? I keep saying "try harder and find your
system". Is something so unacceptable for you, to look for hidden meaning and planned strategy?
I feel so sorry for you guys. How can you handle all this anger?
I hope you can take this seriously people believing in a God in the sky, or who votes Republicans.
They are victims of a scam. Unless you are one of them, of course, if this is the case, everything is
already explained.
Have a wonderful night.

I see you all are looking for ideas, so here my little help.
This is a system very effective that I used some years ago. The reason I left it is simple: I cannot
accept a system with a stop-loss criteria.
A perfect system must have some qualities in its structure, like easy to manage, no deep calculation
needed, a reasonable bankroll, and a general good gameplay, with no choices to be made during the
game.
So here the system, and the good and flaws of it, in my opinion. Feel free to use it, test it or
improve it.

The system tries to get advantage on repetitions. As you all know, in a full cycle (37 spins, or 38 in
an american wheel) on average 2/3 of the numbers will be out, and 1/3 will not. We don’t know
which numbers will be repeated, and how many times, but they will.
The system is played on straight numbers, and I’ll show you an actual play that took place in
Atlantic City a three years ago, more or less.
This was the situation when I approached the table. A list of the last sorted numbers, from the
oldest to the last one.
24
11
25
35
3
24
 So I started playing with a single chip on all numbers from the one following the repeated one.
The total is 5 numbers, or five chips, as I should say. Then the next one was
21 play 6, balance -11
3 I hit, easily. Profit 25
Now the game is a single chip on 3 numbers (24-21-3)
26
23
21 so, with just three shots, another hit (is not always so easy… I included it to let you handle the
idea before getting serious). I played a total of 12 chips for a profit of 24. Now still three numbers to
play (26-23-21)
14 (+4 chips played = balance -7)
4 (+5 = -12)
5 (+6 = -18)
28 (+7 = -25)
8 (+8 = -33)
23 Profit 3. New start, I played 7 chips (21-14-4-5-28-8-23)
16 (+8 = -15)
21 Profit 21. New start, play 8 numbers)
1 (+9 = -17)
20 (+10 = -27)
5 (-38)
30 (-50)
35 (-63)
31 (-77)
23 (I won 36, so my balance at this point is -41) My selection for the next bet is the same as before
(numbers from 16 down to 23, for a total of 9 numbers) adding 1 to my bet, so I put 2 chips on
every number. The total played is 18 chips, for a total balance of -59)
0 (+20 = -79)
31 Still not in positive, I am -7. New selection with just three numbers (23-0-31) with 3 chips on
each. Total bet is 9 and the balance is now -16.
31 straight repetition. I won 92 chips. The total for this session is 165.

Ok, is not always so good, as you can see for yourself. You can reach a multiplier of 25+ and a need
for a huge bankroll (more than 1000 chips) so you are forced to a stop-loss.
This system taught me a great lesson: if a system let you gain a lot, it will cost you a lot. Every
system who promises you to get more than the mere nominal chip is always a mirage. Sooner or
later will put you upside down.
Sure, this method can let you have hundreds in minutes, but it is risky. It easy to track because
every roulette table nowadays has the last sorted numbers visible on a screen, and there is no need
of calculation, really. I had to remember just the total balance I have at the beginning of the game (I
play on automatic wheels, because real tables are too slow) and that’s it.
I think it can be improved, sure I tried, then I jumped in something better and I left it. I hope you
will enjoy it. As always, forgive me for my clumsy English.

This is so true, Real. Human mind needs to see a pattern where there is not. I always say that there
is no reason in selecting numbers to play, or special combination that works as triggers (wait three
blacks, then...) this is nonsense. If a system works, must do it with any random number you chose to
bet.

Previous outcomes has not business in future outcomes. You know that. You have only one road to
follow in order to win: betting amount. The "perfect system" is the martingale, but unfortunately is
impossible to play. Once you create a suitable martingale, you have your Holy Grail.
Has never occurred more than 22 times the same single chance hit in a row. If you wait for it, you
could consider the 23rd a sure winning. Is not. The possibility to be red or black, manque or pass is
exactly as before. The only thing different is that after the outcome, they will correct the record.

This is exactly why I no longer use it. Grants very huge winning, and some painful losses. Now, I
completely abandoned selections of numbers to play, and I worked just with Progression.
This system can be used selecting twins or streets instead of straight numbers, works quite in the
same way.

I did, dobbelsteen, but I didn't get any of it. I do not understand the system and the idea behind it. I
would love to understand it better, if you could help me...
So, if you are looking for my opinion, I have none

You need a system that not relays on a magical winning combination. If you need your number to
be hit, you are wandering in a deep dark wood. What I meant is that your system (in order to be
HG) must win no matter the sequence of numbers the wheel sorts out. This is why I wrote that the
recovery sometimes can be a relatively slow process, but overall the system end up winning (one
unit).
You are not paying attention, I guess.
A single number can disappear for a long time, but who said I play a single number?
I guess you agree with me if I tell you that a simple chance can disappear for a less considerable
amount of time, or a dozen can sleep for more than that but less than a straight number, and so on
and so forth.
The trick is a "playable Martingale". I keep saying that, I know I am boring.
Let me clarify for you one more time. Suppose I am playing red with my progression. I win. Then,
with the same outcomes, same list of numbers, I play black. The system must win as well, otherwise
is not trustfully. That my point.

You Reyth found what I discovered a long ago: fewer numbers your selection is, easiest your
recovery, longer your game. The other side of the coin, is that your profit costs you long hours at the
table. Overall, is a good rule, but brings you in a dead alley. If I have to invest big bankroll and
huge amount of time to gain pennies, is better for me to find a job! ;]
A single number can be played with a slow progression that covers 153 spins with a total bankroll
of 1510 units, and if you play the oldest number out (already late for more than 100 spin) you can
win quite easily. Is it bullettproff? Is not, unfortunately, and your losses will be more than your
winnings, so the nature of this games.

How can you be covered for 920 spins? I guess one hit will not be enough.
The system you are talking about is "bullseye"?

At the end of the first progressiom (92) you are negative 700, or so. How many hits do you need at
level 2 and 3 to recover? Seems, from your explanation, just once per level, and this cannot be.
Please clarify to me.

There is a point when the system is too far gone to consider a stop loss? And how much will it be? I
ask this because from my point of view the bankroll is quite huge, and I saw numbers hit once in
300 spins and sleep again for a couple hundreds more spins. At that point will your progression be
just too heavy?

I give you my 2 cents of advice.

 One of the flaws of this is that you put all your eggs in one basket. A single number can forget to
hit for a long time, and mathematically speaking, nothing say that after the first hit your number
must come more often than usual. For what I saw, can sit out for other 400 spins without problems.
Second, the recovery schedule is too fluctuant. Sometimes when hit you get a lot of profit, and
sometimes just zero, or little more.
Third, you need a huge amount of money in order to play. When a system crave for more than
1000 units bankroll, my soul cries... Even if you won so far, it is herthbreaking put like 200/300
dollars in a single spin of a wheel.
Probably you can improve it a little, for example looking for the latecomer. And switch everytime
you hit.
You can choose a less aggressive progression (the easiest one goes for 120 spins with a total
negative balance of 493, and a max bet of 14).
I don't think this will change the substance of "bullseye", It will ever be a very risky system.

I wrote all this in admiration of your efforts and your attitude. I love the enthusiasm you have when
you approach a new idea, your discipline in testing and reporting, and I learned to know when you
leave an idea to something new, like now with this one.

how is mathematically speaking odds of a single number to miss for 249 spins?

No, real, question is another. If your sistem gains 1 unit a game, and you can aspect that once in 918
you lose, if the system costs you like, so to speak, 356 units to cover that 249 spins, seems to me
you have something in your hands. Am I wrong?

Sorry for you. I respect the democracy of opinions but the tiranny of facts say to me that in the last
18 months I cashed an average of 22/25 thousand $ a month with my system, so I respectfully don't
care a bit what you Sapiens believe or know.
My question was because Reyth system (bullseye) make me work on the idea of a single number
progression, so I just asked, politely.
As I sayd, I appreciated the answer.

Thank you bluangel. I do not look for a new system. As I said, I was amused by the challenge to
find a better solution than the one proposed by Reyth. I figure out a progression that last equivalent
of 249 spins with a need for a single hit to be victorious, and the bankroll required of 355 units.
As each and every system I like, gains merely one unit a game, but the majority of games last few
spins, so I asked For some math. If the system takes a loss every 900 games, grossly, means that I
have a positive balance of 555 units.
If this is the true, it will be the second system in my personal portfolio (not really, because I didn't
test this for more than a couple thousands spins, so so far it is just theoretical for me).

Any system that requires more than 1000 units as bankroll, will be discharged by me immediatly.
Sorry for that.

Ok real, some facts:

I go to casinos for three/four days a week. I play around 8 hours a day, and I see grossly 600 spins,
gaining around 1500/1800 $ a day. My systems total bankroll is 950 units (never been close to that.
The worst game touched a 590 units). For my basic bet, 3000$.
You say that something that has never happen in the last 18 months (grossly my last 200 visits to
casinos) will happen tomorrow, making me lose 3000$. And, moreover, from tomorrow it will be a
rule, and I will lose 3000$ a day for the next year.
Are you joking?
 I have no idea why you keep reading posts here and trying to put everyone down with your
"unbeatable math". I don't care (already said that). You can believe what you want. If you are sure,
let's make a bet. Bring in a casino 25000$. I will do the same. I play my system for any reasonable
amount of time you want. You fix the limits. If I win, I take your 25000$ (without explaining you
the system). If I bust, you take my money.
Deal?

To blueangel:
Do you know how many things are against you in a casino? How many players try to understand
the way you play, have many interruptions, technical difficulties, machines out of order for some
time and such? If you are out for about 5000 units and they ask you to leave for changing tickets
dispenser, or general maintenance, or cleaning, what you do with your system?
And about calculation, you really think to bring paper and pens? (many people does that. One
brought even a laptop, once). Is not my way. I don't want to get noticed, for easily understandable
reasons. I play enough to change money with a machine instead of a cashier, and always below
10000 so I will not sign any paper. I do my simple math in my mind, and I use a clicker to keep
track of the number of spins occurred.
I had been throw out of a small casino in Slovenjia, once, a couple years ago. I will never do the
same mistake again.
I change often my target, so I need to stay away from home 3/4 days a week. I love Las Vegas for
obvious reasons, and I do not trust online casinos (two reasons for this, you can easily guess both).

I post here because many are really trying to beat the wheel. I was in the same situation not so long
time ago. So I try to give inputs, suggestions. I will not give my system to anyone, free or for
money. I wrote my fourth in a post called simple system, the top threes are with me, and written for
my family, if something happens to me (my oldest son is 19, can take my place). What I wrote can
give you the wrong idea. Two fully tested systems are written, the third, the one I am developing
right now, is still only in my pads.
The system, profitable, that I do not use, has a need of a big bankroll, and sometimes the game can
be too long for a marginal profit. The other, you can call HG is, well, Holy Grail, and is exactly
what I dreamt of for something like 30 years.
Hope this clarifies a bit my position here.

Yeah, Real, you did a very good job spotting me. You are such a laugh... I hope for you you do not
play poker, with this "ability" you have.
What a loser.

Blueangel. No, they have nothing against paper and pen, it is me.
Perla is a very big casino in Slovenjia. The biggest, to say it all. I was playing in a small one called
Diamond Club. And I choose that because was one of the few with an airball machine.

For me, a winning session is: I insert 1000$ in a machine (or change in chips at a table) and hours
later I take 1500$. And not occasionaly, but steadily and repeatously.
But now I know few things.
1) it is easy to win. Pick 18 number you easy get 130 hit out of 200. (Please show me that!)
2) even if you win a million dollar over a twenty years time frame, you should consider yourself a
loser, because you will die and death will come in your grave with a roulette wheel making you lose
for the eternity, just to balance odds.

Seems I wasted my time here. This will not happen again. I am heading to a casino, where I will be
in the next four days, facing my destiny as a loser and crying when I cash my illusional winnings.
So long, guys.
I will not answer to this post to any stupid rant as I get in other threads. This is just a cumulative
answer for all the private messages I get these days.
Heres my thought on this game, and how I achieved my results, hoping you all can treasure it and
get some good.

In this game you see two possible roads to follow: predict numbers outcome and betting strategy.
Has been clear to me, after first ten years, that there is no way to predict anything. Numerology,
wizardry, statistic are not helpful. I have seen a number hit 5 times in a row, and another one
disappear for 478 spins. Red hit for 28 spins to get interrupted by a 0 then hit for more 14 spins...
So, my first decision has been take out all this BS.
I worked on progressions. I guess I am too dumb and ignorant for deep math, but I also thought
that some math geniouses (well, probably not as good as some people in here, though) approached
the wheel and they surrended, so a full mathematical approach seems unlogical to pursue.

I easy get emotional, so I couldn't accept a system too demanding in terms of high betting or huge
bankroll. I couldn't see myself putting like 300 units on a spin wheel. I get no confort thinking that I
have 90% of chance to hit... So my systems always started with an expected balance of 2/300. I
knew that developing the system I will find a need to multiply that. If I start higher, I will end near
the impractical.

I tried to be creative, putting ideas on the table and trying without prejudices whatsoever. Even if
system would fail, some of it could be good.
After many years, putting toghether all this crumbs of experience, I figure out a way to manage
progression in a bizarre way (by the way, a last advice. Because so many work and worked to find
HG, a system too easy to plan, like betting the last sector, or add 1 when you hit, must be discarded
right away. Other already tried that!).

If your system win big, will lose big. If your system win one unit, you just have to figure out a way
to recover from a very small amount in the bad streak. This is important.
In my opinion is not good to relay on a single event in order to to win. This single event could not
happen for a very long time.
Hope this will help someone.

Sorry Jefra I do not speak that language. I can say Hvala, dobre Jutro (I am not sure is even right
this) and few more words.
I do not play even chances.

Makes no sense.
If roulette is a random game, what's the meaning of changing a random element of it accordingly
to the people playing.
If the wheel is biased, and the outcome already determined by the overall betting, what's the
meaning of this change you are talking about?
I wonder what kind of answer you whould have give if someone stated what you wrote in your last
post.

I respect your "knowledge" of math and the game, I absolutely do not like your attitude, and your
way to consider a fool everyone is not on your side.
Remember me of Aristoteles, who said that women had fewer teeth than men, as natural proof of
being lesser individuals, and despite he has been married twice, never asked to one of them to open
the mouth to allow him to count their teeth...
So...
Checking outcomes to identify a biased or fallacious wheel, then look at the ball spinning around
the wheel to identify a sector where it will most likely end its run, it is called science.
On the other hand, waiting for a situation to occur, a situation that statistically happens one time
every two spins, and studying a progression that allows you to wait 20 spins to hit, it is called luck.

Real, your logic makes no sense. I understand you have something to sell, but your way to repeat
your mantra (gambler's fallacy and such) is quite annoying.
If someone has a system that will eventually fail, I guess he will find out by himself.
Every thread here starts with an idea, then you jump in with your mantra, repeating over and over
your point of view. We got it. I assure you. We are dreamers and you are a scientist, please proceed.

What's your purpose? Raising yourself downgrading others? If you could just spend your time
collecting money, as you should do as a Professional Gambler, it will be great. Let people play and
try their way, they are big enough, and you are making a fool of yourself.
If you can not build something, at least avoid to destroy other people work. Be respectful, be
tolerant, be wiser. Your way is not the only way, just one of many. You and your friends are bad
weed in a wonderful garden. It is so frustrating your negative attitude, I cannot even word it.
Do you know how many impossible things has been done while other were screaming "cannot be
done!"? And, finally, the sentence about the inutility to expect a different result from similar starting
point is absurd. In science, you always pursue a different result from a single starting point, with
small variations. People here do experiments trying to find a result, working with numbers,
progressions, deduction and such. More are closer than they think, actually, but the last step is the
hardest, it is said.

Forgive me for this illiterate rant, i'd love to be able to write a better English.

so, explain me why one of my post his no more visible.

Several days ago, I said that the effort Real put throwing s*** to anyone made me suspicious. I
said he have somehing to sell, and wants everyone to fail just to sell his system/machine/whatever.
Real said no, obviously. He is in a sacred mission of save all of us from our mistakes.
Then, today, he reavealed himself promoting a site where they sell machines to beat the Wheel. I
put a reply calling him good as a two dollar bill. My reply is no more there!
So, I hope this thread will last, so anyone get to know what his game is.
I don't know if he handle this forum, or else. I keep saying to all of you: go with your effort to beat
the wheel, and ignore this "person".

If there is someone who puts negativity in here is Real! He lied, and I just pointed it out.
He accused me of lying, of scam, and he said I was a fake profile of someone else. I didn't saw you
putting shields to cover me.
I respect your work here, and your attitude, but this guy and his friends crossed the river many
times, and just because they have to sell their junk (if wasn't so, junk I mean, they will spend time
getting money from casinos, not from people).
Mine is a winning system, and I will never sell, and never reveal outside my family. People here
works together to figure out a system or at least a strategy that works. This is good, and everyone
should encourage this. What is the meaning of get annoyed by Real or his friends?
If you see what has happen lately, you will see less posts and less idea, because I thnk people is
getting sick of been treated like fools or idiots, and quit working at open air, sharing ideas. It was
supposed to be so? I don't think so.
Anyway, I said mine. Forgive me for this rant. I will out for 4 days (my weekly casino trip) so I
will not be able to follow this forum or just occasionally. I am curious to see what people think.
Sorry blueangel you are wrong.
I don't wait for any sleepers or missing numbers. I start playing without any observation
whatsoever, as soon as I reach the casino. I don't think someone can predict outcomes, so I work
just with progression.
I play with 1$ chips, because hypothetically this system can go high as little more than 1000 units
(if this happens when you play with 5$ chips you have to collect more than 7000$, and this bring
employees to register your name for receiving payment, something I do not want.
97% of games ends in the first 14 spins, and almost 70% in first fives. Usually I do not need to put
more than 300$ dollar for every session, and after two/three hours I take a break.
For my system to work, I need that I hit a number every 60 numbers played (means I don't have
the same amount of numbers to play at every spin). I have 256 spins to pursue that average. When
the ratio 1/60 his reached, my system is in profit.
Hope this helps.

As I said, I found it, and I will never explain to anyone.

I wrote it down for my daughter, so if something happens to me, she could have it when she will
be old enough (now she is 5). No one of my friends or relatives will have.
I tried once to explain it to my wife, but after a couple of minutes she watched me confused and
said: "Are you kidding? I don't understand a thing of what you are saying", so now stays with me.
In the last years, I lost some games, or for malfunction of the roulette (airball machines) that
closed down while I was in a game, and once because I had the urgency to go to the bathroom. The
system, as itself, never failed.
I started with .25$ chips, and now I play 3$. My next step is 5$ then 10$. No more than that, there
is no use and could be dangerous in a variety of ways.
Once a guy at the casino offered me 20.000$ to explain my system (I played for a week there, and
every day he kept an eye on me). A mistake I will never do again. Maximus is two days in a row.
I play 8 hrs a day, 2/3 days a week. I do not work, because I do not need to.
The worst part of a winning system is the boredom. Stays there hours doing basically nothing is
boring. Deadly boring. And around you there are a lot of distractions. So you have to build your
discipline, and stick to it playing at roulette no matter what. At the end, you can use your winnings
(part of them) to enjoy yourself. I did in my prime, now I walk away as soon as I cash my ticket.
My daily goal is 1000$, sometime I quit a little before when I am tired. Mostly, I stick to it. My
final goal is 3000$ a day for two days a week. Not enough to became rich, but I am not in that kind
of mind setting.

By the way, I don't care if you believe it or not. I post here with open hearth and no second meaning
whatsoever.

Kav, he implied I am a liar, I implied he is an idiot.

I have no problems. Every time I pocket my money, I think of people like him, unable to accept
what they cannot understand or have. They protect themselves saying is not possible because they
cannot stand that they aren't able to get it.
In the last 2 years and a half I got more than 400.000$, do you think his opinion is somehow
relevant to me. He can keeps is opinion while I keep my money and my system. Win-win...
The fact is that I am playing right now, and I get bored, so this is a distraction.
Anyway, because of the question in this thread, I gave my answer. Simple and straightforward.
Some users of this site asked me privately and politely informations about my system, and they get
some. Not enough to solve the riddle (unless they are smart, devoted and analyze every hint I gave
them) but something to work with.
I have no intention to sell my system, and sure I will not reveal it for free (25 years of work cannot
be wasted). I think there is more than 1 winning system, and I am sure who is in the same position
as me decided to do the same: keep it secret without exceptions. Probably I am the dumbest of them
all, wasting my time in a forum like this one, with people so shortminded.

Bebediktus, my dream should be a big one, because allowed me to move to US, grant a Visa, live in
in a big house (rented, not enough credit history to start a mortgage). Well, after all has been said
that if you work hard on your dreams they became reality. Yeah, I know, even these words of
wisdom are fool's gold.

I guess is OT, but because you asked, I reply. I am here to encourage you all to keep trying in your
search of the HG. This was in fact my first post here, and I believe in it since.
So many people keeps saying the roulette cannot be beaten, I say the opposite. If they are legit, I
am too.

How much bankroll do you need?

In theory, 1400 units. In my experience never gone even close to that. My record is around 450.
But It is good to have some margins.

How many numbers you bet?

Depends. Changes during the game.

Did the game ends with the first hit?

Only if hits in the firsts spins. Sometimes I need 2 hits, sometimes five…

What the average profit?

Each and every game ends with a profit from 1 to 9 units. The average profit, because games can
last 1 spin while other 30 or so, is around .30

Do you need a “magical” combination in order to win?

Not at all. All is needed is that I hit an average of 1 every 60 numbers played (or better). As soon as
this threshold is reached, the game is won. Has happen I had to wait more than 180 numbers played
before the first hit, then in the next 15 spins or so, with three more hit, the game was over.

How you choose numbers to play?

I use a system to avoid any mistake, and to fasten the game. There is no a better pattern or a best or
worst choice, the important is the total numbers played, in the way the system asks for.

How many spins your system stands?

It can go almost 260 spins. The longest game I experienced is 73 spins, and the second worst
around 50. The average game last 4 spins. During the day 80% of games are from 1 spins to 12.

Do you sell it?

No, I don’t.

Why?
Because I don’t want to. I make enough money with it to be satisfied, and if I had to put a price tag,
that should be quite high.

Are calculations complicated?

Not really. In the vast majority of games I can compute mentally, using a clicker to keep track of
spins. When the game becomes longer, let say more than 20 spins, you should keep track of
balance, but is not complicated at all.
Do you cheat the wheel?
No, in any way. I use math.

So, what’s the philosophy of the system?

I think progression is the key. I don’t think there is a way to predict what numbers will be next, or
sector or street or… Past spins have no influence, the dealer have not, the cabalistic aspect of
numbers… BS. Even statistic has no matter in few spins, because it works on large amount of
numbers.

How you found it?

I tried and tried tons of systems, changing approach every time that I felt stuck and cannot improve
further what I had. I guess I have been lucky finding an unusual way to build a progression. As a
matter of fact, I never seen a progression even close as the one I use.

Why you are not rich?

In an average day, you can play 8/10 hours, with frequent stops. Most of all, because looking at a
wheel is boring (I usually browse the internet meanwhile, because you don’t need much attention in
the first 10 spins, or chatting or using Facebook etc. etc.). The airball machine, that is faster than
live roulette (close to 1 spin every fifty seconds) allows me to profit 30/40 units hr. I play with 3$
chips, so my day ends when I get 1000$. That goes two/three days a week.
With a 3$ unit chip, for 1400 bankroll needed, I bring with me 4500$.
My plan is move to 5$ then 10$, so to reach a profit of 3000$ a day, or 6000$ a week, or 24000$ a
month, “working” only two days a week.
Last year, for example, I played for long sessions of 12 and 14 days in a row, in Atlantic City and
Las Vegas. Not a pleasureful experience, except for money.
Back to math. To became rich you should play something like 4 days a week, with a 20$ units, so
you have to bring 30000$ cash in the casino (go figure) and maybe redeem 10000$ over and over…
You get noticed, not only by casino’s employees: thieves, gold diggers, people in needs, other
gamblers… I don’t want that!

Are you the only winner?

I don’t think so. I played in hundreds places, from US to Australia, from Norway to Spain, on
cruise ships and so on, and I met at least other two guys that seemed to have a good system. You can
say this because they didn’t celebrate huge winnings, they were very focused on the game, and I
“recognized” my same behaviors (no rewards cards, no chatting with others, no emotional display
of any sort).

Did you ever lost?

Three times. Once I had to go to the bathroom because of oysters… yeah, enjoy the buffet, they
say. Another was because they had to clean the area where the roulette was located. They gave me a
warning of three spins then they closed the machine. I was out of like 20 units, so not a big deal.
Third, and most painful, in the middle of a long game, I was out around 150 units, and my sister
called me at the phone. My mother was no more, and I left without caring of the systems or the
money.

Do you play online?

No. I think it is too easy to rig results, and secondarily I don’t want to be noticed. I change often
casinos, and I cannot stick to an online one.

Did you ever told someone the system.

 I wrote the system for my family, if something happens to me. Unfortunately my daughter is too
young to learn it, and my wife cannot grab it. I had sometimes the temptation, for vanity or because
someone needed so badly, but I refrained myself.
I thought to teach it to my brother, so he could protect my family if something unexpected happens
to me. This is my biggest concern. I am not in a good relationship with him, and I do not trust him
100%, and I don’t think he got the right attitude to play the system at the casino, because lacks of
discipline.

Something more to add?

I’m just a nickname on a monitor, and people reading it are nicknames too. I don’t want to impress
females just to bring them to me, so there is no use to fake something. I don’t care if people believes
it or not. I have been called liar and attention seeker, dreamer or scammer. I get sad reading these
statements, because they do not understand my position, and moreover they reveal their short sight.
Unfortunately my English is not good enough to express myself completely, and I am sure I made a
lot of mistakes here, but I hope someone will be encouraged to find his own way to his HG.

Jake, consider that I was living in Europe till few years ago, and my English was nothing back then.
I never heard of the website you are talking to.
I made my progression entirely from scratch.
I didn't figure it out in a blast, though. The initial draft was different, then I adjusted it practicing
and playing, when my mind figure out a way to improve it. Not all improvements has been for the
better, so sometimes you have to go back to basic, but what I have now is untouched since 2014.
Ever attempt I made to improve it further has been unsuccessful, so I guess I reached the top of it.

I think the first year has been just recovery, for all the money I spent previously, in systems and
strategies that didn't work.
In almost thirty years of attempts, I had my share of desperation and anger. Many times I thrown
away pads and notes, with thousands and thousand of outcomes on which I tested systems that
lasted less than 2 hours in a real play.

Is not easy to win even with a winning system. As I said, boredom is a potent killer. You need
discipline and self control. These are characteristics my brother doesn't have. I understand is quite
sad as a statement, but this is it.
He is an honest man, but is not a player in any sense, and the system for him is just a waste. The
defeat is, primarily, on the player.

I will not share. Let's say you want to start a business, a solid and established franchising. You have
to pay a quote, and initial setup, and a slice of your profit, or a monthly fee. I thought of it for some
time. Put together a bunch of people and sweep casinos, getting a share of their work and all of
mine. I thought asking like 50000$, give some training, and when the player is able to walk by
itself, start with a new one (I guess it takes less then 30 minutes to learn it, and maybe a day or two
to handle at the casino).
My problem was how to control that. I know how much the system profit, but I cannot keep the
system with the initial team. They can spread it all over the world, and make it worthless.
Honestly, I don't think the casino can stop it. I don't reach limits, I don't cheat, I don't use any
device, is just simple math, but the accessibility to a casino floor is always discretional, so they can
kick you out without reasons. So I decided to keep it to me exclusively.
As you can see, there are issues. I thought to keep with me and just my wife, or my brother, as a
safety net, but I don't have the right person close to me. Anyway, I wrote it down as a legacy for my
family, and they will have it if something will happen to me. I am confident that someone will be
able to use it. I am not even 50, so I hope I got some time :]
With the future money, I will do some investment. For now, I spend most of the winning moving to
US, buy a small business to get a Visa, and I just recently moved to a new bigger house. As I said, I
am not really interested in becoming rich. Never been a dream of mine. I like money, I don't like to
be ruled by greed.

Sorry, your guess is wrong. As I said, I play different amounts of numbers as the game progress.
Playing one number? I have been already dead for boredom...
I moved recently from 1$ chips to 3$ chips because I reached one of my planned benchmarks
(100.000 real spins). When I will cross the 150.000, I will move to 5$, and crossed 200.000 spins
played, I will land on a 10$ chips, my final goal.
When, I said when, not if, my system will fall, I will lose less than 0.1% of what I get so far. I
don't think I will lose often though.

Moreover, I said that vast majority of games ends in few spins, and this cannot be with a single
number bet.
You are not paying attention...

I can't see the point of warning me on a system I am using since 2014, pocketing a lot of money
since then

I have a way to select what to bet, in order to avoid confusion or indecision. If system tell me to
play a couple of dozens (for example, is not the way how it works...) I have a pattern to chose which
dozens are to use. What you choose doesn't affect the final result, as long as you bet two dozens!
This "pattern" helped me testing the system without tweaking results. I tried different patterns with
the same spin outcomes, and worked exactly the same.
A winning system must work in every situation, or is not a winning system. If you need to check
late, hot, or lucky numbers, is not a winning system, it is a strategy.

Is good, though, after many months after my last visit, see that someone is still working on my
clues. That's exactly what I hoped for, telling you that is possible to win, consistently. I understand
that is not easy to connect all the dots, but is worthwhile.

Jerome, read with more attention my Q&A. My system can hold for more than 260 spins, and I
never play a single number. At spin number 20 I have already played almost 200 numbers.
Important is the ratio of the hit (1 out of 60) I get.

Jerome, At spin number 10 I already played 228 numbers, for an outstanding balance of 93 pieces.
Yes, I need several hit to recover and be in profit, but as you can understand with the number I show
is not so difficult to get, or too costly.
For example at spin number 10 I know I need 4 hits in a short period, or five in a longer one. I
assure you it is quite rare reach spin number 10 without any hit!
When you hit, you play less numbers, and when you don't, the total numbers played tend to
increase.

The apparent contradiction is easy to explain. I have been asked how many number without hitting I
can sustain, and I showed that. In the vast majority of games I hit something, and this will change
completely the total sum of number played, as my outstanding balance at that moment. If you read
carefully you can see it quite easily from my basic explanation posted earlier.
Impossible to recover? I need four hits, and several spin to obtain that, and after every hit I reduce
my total bet so gaining more "time" to fill my 1/60 ratio.
 About what I select, I already wrote that I have a pattern that I follow, so to not be confused or
distracted. My preferred pattern is following the last number, sometimes I use another pattern,
because at the end it doesn't matter, as I already explained.
Important is how many numbers following a fixed progression bet. That progression is the
important part, or "the trap" as Jerome says...

What I want you to understand is my simple advice: You can not predict what number we will come
out. Your only weapon against roulette is the money you put in and the way you do it, because is
completely up to you. Cold numbers, hot numbers, closer to this or that, magical combinations are
all stupid things, in my opinion.
My progression is unique, and takes advantage of the only weakness the wheel has.
Now I remember why I didn't checked this forum in a while...

Zero is a number with the exact possibility to be hit as the others, so if you plan to include it in your
pattern of bets it is ok.
I do not play more and more numbers if I don't finish the game in the firsts spins. It is true, though,
that the total numbers played TEND to increase when I miss and TEND to decrease when I hit. My
system is a combination of bet selection and progression. I pay no attention of what to play.
I had very bad sequences (the longest I remember was first hit at 16th spin, with the profit at spin
27). I had shorter wait on first spin but an overall longest game to reach the profit, so really doesn't
change. I do not want to go through my books to find the exact sequence, probably I already written
it somewhere or to someone.
The game is usually short, because of the large amount of numbers involved. Despite that,
sometimes I play a considerable low amount of numbers, and if I hit in a strict sequence (let's say
three in a row) my profit is quite large.

There is no situation that can me bet more than 24 numbers in a single spin.
And yes, I guess it is very hard to catch the system without comprehending what's the source idea
of it. You must be think in a original way how to recover your outstanding balance.

I will not explain the system, but I say to you there is one. For a smart, dedicated mind this is all
that is needed.

Wow, is my English that bad?

"at spin 10 I already played 228 numbers (with no hits whatsoever)"

"(usually, with some hits meanwhile) at spin 20 I already played almost 200 numbers"

I never play more than 24 numbers in a spin (24*10= 240, means that I play at maximum 24
numbers, so in ten spins I played 228 that brings easily the total below the maximum possible that I
posted)

No wonder you can't find it, never in a million years.

I also said the my system can go as long as 260+ spins, not that I need to play that number of spins
to reach my goal. Any game, as soon as it reaches the ratio 1 hit every 60 numbers played
(roughly!) it is over with a profit.
This profit is 1 piece or more, depends when I get the ratio.
I count units, not dollars.

And I am done for now. Three days and you remembered me to avoid this forum.
Jerome, your post is exactly what I was hoping for, when I started post in here: make people work
pursuing my HG. You are wrong, here and there, but really doesn't matter, you will find your way,
eventually.
The only advice I can give you is find the core idea of the system, the "revolutionary" one,
otherwise other already should have found it. My system has a particular progression that allows me
to win, and to find that progression your brain must have a click, and find what's really important.
No matter how many indications and numbers I give you, or hints: without that you will not
succeed. Keep trying, and be a-linear in your thinking. Try a never attempted road, be original.
My best wishes.

Scepticus, you should read with more attentions. I said my system can sustain itself for more than
260 spins, but I also said that that never occured, not even close.
The profit for each game is minimum of 1 piece. So, it is usually more. Is another information I
gave previously. The vast majority of my game last very few spins, as any system with a quite large
selection of numbers. The trick is recover when the game becomes longer.
Jerome, I said that doesn't matter what number you choose, if the total number played is correct.
Sure, if you want to keep your bankroll low, you need to play chances, dozens and so on and so
forth.
I play american roulette, with double zero (I now live in US), it is a little harder, but not really.

Jerome: I am from Italy, and I moved to US because I want my daughter to study here. She was
very young when we moved, and Italy was in a very economical disaster.
As I said, playing the european wheel changes a little but you don't really notice in an average
game. I had a trace in my first two years or so, then I found it no more relevant. I know my
progression, there is not much calculus to do, and so I stopped. I play on machine, so I just
remember the count when I start the game. When I reach a bigger number, I know I am in profit
(cannot be easier). I usually start with 300 units, so I just keep tracking of that (you get it, right?
when the counter show 302, I start a new game). When reach 500 or so, I go eat or do something
else, and then start again at 300.
I have been scared at the beginning, because you always think the casinos have rigged games.
Now time proved was a unjustified fear. When you have 8 people play at the same time, it is very
hard find a number that make everyone lose. On the other hand, one day I had a guy close to me
that was playing just number 14, with splits and street, and was playing big. He got the 14 hitting
like 4 times in 7 spins, and walked away with 14000 dollars...

I don't play with $1 chips, as already said in other posts. I started with quarters, and took me time to
have bankroll and confidence to go for more. I usually get 200 units a session, and I go for 2 or
three session a day. Do the math.

Blue angel, you can call me Filippo, is my name. What is so special about my progression, or my
system, is that is a winning one. My progression is nuclear science because I am the only one in this
forum that got a bulletproof system. You can believe me or not, I don't care.
I enjoy seeing your perspective on my situation, but I love much more mine! I don't chase losses
since 2011, when I created this system. I lost and won before, with other systems I created, and a lot
before any kind of system crossed my life.
I don't need much hit to recover. My system allow me to play less numbers when I am close to
profit, and more when I am moving away from it. That's the geniality of it. The average hit ratio is
really on machine favor (1/60), so I don't need a very specific combination or luck to win.
I have many spins, many possible combinations, an adjustable progression (I mean adaptable) to
reach my goal. Your warnings, as I said before, were already old 4 years ago...
Almost forgot. I wrote posts about it only here. Any other forum or users with similar content are
not me. And sometimes I regret even to have started this one...

How much bankroll do you need?

In theory, 1400 units. In my experience never gone even close to that. My record is around 450.
But It is good to have some margins.

How many numbers you bet?

Depends. Changes during the game.

Did the game ends with the first hit?

Only if hits in the firsts spins. Sometimes I need 2 hits, sometimes five…

What the average profit?

Each and every game ends with a profit from 1 to 9 units. The average profit, because games can
last 1 spin while other 30 or so, is around .30

Do you need a “magical” combination in order to win?

Not at all. All is needed is that I hit an average of 1 every 60 numbers played (or better). As soon as
this threshold is reached, the game is won. Has happen I had to wait more than 180 numbers played
before the first hit, then in the next 15 spins or so, with three more hit, the game was over.

How you choose numbers to play?

I use a system to avoid any mistake, and to fasten the game. There is no a better pattern or a best or
worst choice, the important is the total numbers played, in the way the system asks for.

How many spins your system stands?

It can go almost 260 spins. The longest game I experienced is 73 spins, and the second worst
around 50. The average game last 4 spins. During the day 80% of games are from 1 spins to 12.

Do you sell it?

No, I don’t.

Why?
Because I don’t want to. I make enough money with it to be satisfied, and if I had to put a price tag,
that should be quite high.

Are calculations complicated?

Not really. In the vast majority of games I can compute mentally, using a clicker to keep track of
spins. When the game becomes longer, let say more than 20 spins, you should keep track of
balance, but is not complicated at all.

Do you cheat the wheel?

No, in any way. I use math.

So, what’s the philosophy of the system?

I think progression is the key. I don’t think there is a way to predict what numbers will be next, or
sector or street or… Past spins have no influence, the dealer have not, the cabalistic aspect of
numbers… BS. Even statistic has no matter in few spins, because it works on large amount of
numbers.

How you found it?

 I tried and tried tons of systems, changing approach every time that I felt stuck and cannot improve
further what I had. I guess I have been lucky finding an unusual way to build a progression. As a
matter of fact, I never seen a progression even close as the one I use.

Why you are not rich?

In an average day, you can play 8/10 hours, with frequent stops. Most of all, because looking at a
wheel is boring (I usually browse the internet meanwhile, because you don’t need much attention in
the first 10 spins, or chatting or using Facebook etc. etc.). The airball machine, that is faster than
live roulette (close to 1 spin every fifty seconds) allows me to profit 30/40 units hr. I play with 3$
chips, so my day ends when I get 1000$. That goes two/three days a week.
With a 3$ unit chip, for 1400 bankroll needed, I bring with me 4500$.
My plan is move to 5$ then 10$, so to reach a profit of 3000$ a day, or 6000$ a week, or 24000$ a
month, “working” only two days a week.
Last year, for example, I played for long sessions of 12 and 14 days in a row, in Atlantic City and
Las Vegas. Not a pleasureful experience, except for money.
Back to math. To became rich you should play something like 4 days a week, with a 20$ units, so
you have to bring 30000$ cash in the casino (go figure) and maybe redeem 10000$ over and over…
You get noticed, not only by casino’s employees: thieves, gold diggers, people in needs, other
gamblers… I don’t want that!

Are you the only winner?

I don’t think so. I played in hundreds places, from US to Australia, from Norway to Spain, on
cruise ships and so on, and I met at least other two guys that seemed to have a good system. You can
say this because they didn’t celebrate huge winnings, they were very focused on the game, and I
“recognized” my same behaviors (no rewards cards, no chatting with others, no emotional display
of any sort).

Did you ever lost?

Three times. Once I had to go to the bathroom because of oysters… yeah, enjoy the buffet, they
say. Another was because they had to clean the area where the roulette was located. They gave me a
warning of three spins then they closed the machine. I was out of like 20 units, so not a big deal.
Third, and most painful, in the middle of a long game, I was out around 150 units, and my sister
called me at the phone. My mother was no more, and I left without caring of the systems or the
money.

Do you play online?

No. I think it is too easy to rig results, and secondarily I don’t want to be noticed. I change often
casinos, and I cannot stick to an online one.

Did you ever told someone the system.

I wrote the system for my family, if something happens to me. Unfortunately my daughter is too
young to learn it, and my wife cannot grab it. I had sometimes the temptation, for vanity or because
someone needed so badly, but I refrained myself.
I thought to teach it to my brother, so he could protect my family if something unexpected happens
to me. This is my biggest concern. I am not in a good relationship with him, and I do not trust him
100%, and I don’t think he got the right attitude to play the system at the casino, because lacks of
discipline.

Something more to add?

I’m just a nickname on a monitor, and people reading it are nicknames too. I don’t want to impress
females just to bring them to me, so there is no use to fake something. I don’t care if people believes
it or not. I have been called liar and attention seeker, dreamer or scammer. I get sad reading these
statements, because they do not understand my position, and moreover they reveal their short sight.
Unfortunately my English is not good enough to express myself completely, and I am sure I made a
lot of mistakes here, but I hope someone will be encouraged to find his own way to his HG.

Jake, consider that I was living in Europe till few years ago, and my English was nothing back then.
I never heard of the website you are talking to.
I made my progression entirely from scratch.
I didn't figure it out in a blast, though. The initial draft was different, then I adjusted it practicing
and playing, when my mind figure out a way to improve it. Not all improvements has been for the
better, so sometimes you have to go back to basic, but what I have now is untouched since 2014.
Ever attempt I made to improve it further has been unsuccessful, so I guess I reached the top of it.

I think the first year has been just recovery, for all the money I spent previously, in systems and
strategies that didn't work.
In almost thirty years of attempts, I had my share of desperation and anger. Many times I thrown
away pads and notes, with thousands and thousand of outcomes on which I tested systems that
lasted less than 2 hours in a real play.

Is not easy to win even with a winning system. As I said, boredom is a potent killer. You need
discipline and self control. These are characteristics my brother doesn't have. I understand is quite
sad as a statement, but this is it.
He is an honest man, but is not a player in any sense, and the system for him is just a waste. The
defeat is, primarily, on the player.

I will not share. Let's say you want to start a business, a solid and established franchising. You have
to pay a quote, and initial setup, and a slice of your profit, or a monthly fee. I thought of it for some
time. Put together a bunch of people and sweep casinos, getting a share of their work and all of
mine. I thought asking like 50000$, give some training, and when the player is able to walk by
itself, start with a new one (I guess it takes less then 30 minutes to learn it, and maybe a day or two
to handle at the casino).
My problem was how to control that. I know how much the system profit, but I cannot keep the
system with the initial team. They can spread it all over the world, and make it worthless.
Honestly, I don't think the casino can stop it. I don't reach limits, I don't cheat, I don't use any
device, is just simple math, but the accessibility to a casino floor is always discretional, so they can
kick you out without reasons. So I decided to keep it to me exclusively.
As you can see, there are issues. I thought to keep with me and just my wife, or my brother, as a
safety net, but I don't have the right person close to me. Anyway, I wrote it down as a legacy for my
family, and they will have it if something will happen to me. I am confident that someone will be
able to use it. I am not even 50, so I hope I got some time :]

With the future money, I will do some investment. For now, I spend most of the winning moving to
US, buy a small business to get a Visa, and I just recently moved to a new bigger house. As I said, I
am not really interested in becoming rich. Never been a dream of mine. I like money, I don't like to
be ruled by greed.

Sorry, your guess is wrong. As I said, I play different amounts of numbers as the game progress.
Playing one number? I have been already dead for boredom...
I moved recently from 1$ chips to 3$ chips because I reached one of my planned benchmarks
(100.000 real spins). When I will cross the 150.000, I will move to 5$, and crossed 200.000 spins
played, I will land on a 10$ chips, my final goal.
When, I said when, not if, my system will fall, I will lose less than 0.1% of what I get so far. I
don't think I will lose often though.
Moreover, I said that vast majority of games ends in few spins, and this cannot be with a single
number bet.
You are not paying attention...

I can't see the point of warning me on a system I am using since 2014, pocketing a lot of money
since then

I have a way to select what to bet, in order to avoid confusion or indecision. If system tell me to
play a couple of dozens (for example, is not the way how it works...) I have a pattern to chose which
dozens are to use. What you choose doesn't affect the final result, as long as you bet two dozens!
This "pattern" helped me testing the system without tweaking results. I tried different patterns with
the same spin outcomes, and worked exactly the same.
A winning system must work in every situation, or is not a winning system. If you need to check
late, hot, or lucky numbers, is not a winning system, it is a strategy.

Is good, though, after many months after my last visit, see that someone is still working on my
clues. That's exactly what I hoped for, telling you that is possible to win, consistently. I understand
that is not easy to connect all the dots, but is worthwhile.

Jerome, read with more attention my Q&A. My system can hold for more than 260 spins, and I
never play a single number. At spin number 20 I have already played almost 200 numbers.
Important is the ratio of the hit (1 out of 60) I get.

Jerome, At spin number 10 I already played 228 numbers, for an outstanding balance of 93 pieces.
Yes, I need several hit to recover and be in profit, but as you can understand with the number I show
is not so difficult to get, or too costly.
For example at spin number 10 I know I need 4 hits in a short period, or five in a longer one. I
assure you it is quite rare reach spin number 10 without any hit!
When you hit, you play less numbers, and when you don't, the total numbers played tend to
increase.

The apparent contradiction is easy to explain. I have been asked how many number without hitting I
can sustain, and I showed that. In the vast majority of games I hit something, and this will change
completely the total sum of number played, as my outstanding balance at that moment. If you read
carefully you can see it quite easily from my basic explanation posted earlier.
Impossible to recover? I need four hits, and several spin to obtain that, and after every hit I reduce
my total bet so gaining more "time" to fill my 1/60 ratio.
About what I select, I already wrote that I have a pattern that I follow, so to not be confused or
distracted. My preferred pattern is following the last number, sometimes I use another pattern,
because at the end it doesn't matter, as I already explained.
Important is how many numbers following a fixed progression bet. That progression is the
important part, or "the trap" as Jerome says...

What I want you to understand is my simple advice: You can not predict what number we will come
out. Your only weapon against roulette is the money you put in and the way you do it, because is
completely up to you. Cold numbers, hot numbers, closer to this or that, magical combinations are
all stupid things, in my opinion.
My progression is unique, and takes advantage of the only weakness the wheel has.
Now I remember why I didn't checked this forum in a while...
Zero is a number with the exact possibility to be hit as the others, so if you plan to include it in your
pattern of bets it is ok.
I do not play more and more numbers if I don't finish the game in the firsts spins. It is true, though,
that the total numbers played TEND to increase when I miss and TEND to decrease when I hit. My
system is a combination of bet selection and progression. I pay no attention of what to play.
I had very bad sequences (the longest I remember was first hit at 16th spin, with the profit at spin
27). I had shorter wait on first spin but an overall longest game to reach the profit, so really doesn't
change. I do not want to go through my books to find the exact sequence, probably I already written
it somewhere or to someone.
The game is usually short, because of the large amount of numbers involved. Despite that,
sometimes I play a considerable low amount of numbers, and if I hit in a strict sequence (let's say
three in a row) my profit is quite large.

There is no situation that can me bet more than 24 numbers in a single spin.
And yes, I guess it is very hard to catch the system without comprehending what's the source idea
of it. You must be think in a original way how to recover your outstanding balance.

I will not explain the system, but I say to you there is one. For a smart, dedicated mind this is all
that is needed.

Wow, is my English that bad?

"at spin 10 I already played 228 numbers (with no hits whatsoever)"

"(usually, with some hits meanwhile) at spin 20 I already played almost 200 numbers"

I never play more than 24 numbers in a spin (24*10= 240, means that I play at maximum 24
numbers, so in ten spins I played 228 that brings easily the total below the maximum possible that I
posted)

No wonder you can't find it, never in a million years.

I also said the my system can go as long as 260+ spins, not that I need to play that number of spins
to reach my goal. Any game, as soon as it reaches the ratio 1 hit every 60 numbers played
(roughly!) it is over with a profit.
This profit is 1 piece or more, depends when I get the ratio.
I count units, not dollars.

And I am done for now. Three days and you remembered me to avoid this forum.

Jerome, your post is exactly what I was hoping for, when I started post in here: make people work
pursuing my HG. You are wrong, here and there, but really doesn't matter, you will find your way,
eventually.
The only advice I can give you is find the core idea of the system, the "revolutionary" one,
otherwise other already should have found it. My system has a particular progression that allows me
to win, and to find that progression your brain must have a click, and find what's really important.
No matter how many indications and numbers I give you, or hints: without that you will not
succeed. Keep trying, and be a-linear in your thinking. Try a never attempted road, be original.
My best wishes.

Scepticus, you should read with more attentions. I said my system can sustain itself for more than
260 spins, but I also said that that never occured, not even close.
 The profit for each game is minimum of 1 piece. So, it is usually more. Is another information I
gave previously. The vast majority of my game last very few spins, as any system with a quite large
selection of numbers. The trick is recover when the game becomes longer.
Jerome, I said that doesn't matter what number you choose, if the total number played is correct.
Sure, if you want to keep your bankroll low, you need to play chances, dozens and so on and so
forth.
I play american roulette, with double zero (I now live in US), it is a little harder, but not really.

Jerome: I am from Italy, and I moved to US because I want my daughter to study here. She was
very young when we moved, and Italy was in a very economical disaster.
As I said, playing the european wheel changes a little but you don't really notice in an average
game. I had a trace in my first two years or so, then I found it no more relevant. I know my
progression, there is not much calculus to do, and so I stopped. I play on machine, so I just
remember the count when I start the game. When I reach a bigger number, I know I am in profit
(cannot be easier). I usually start with 300 units, so I just keep tracking of that (you get it, right?
when the counter show 302, I start a new game). When reach 500 or so, I go eat or do something
else, and then start again at 300.
I have been scared at the beginning, because you always think the casinos have rigged games.
Now time proved was a unjustified fear. When you have 8 people play at the same time, it is very
hard find a number that make everyone lose. On the other hand, one day I had a guy close to me
that was playing just number 14, with splits and street, and was playing big. He got the 14 hitting
like 4 times in 7 spins, and walked away with 14000 dollars...

I don't play with $1 chips, as already said in other posts. I started with quarters, and took me time to
have bankroll and confidence to go for more. I usually get 200 units a session, and I go for 2 or
three session a day. Do the math.

Blue angel, you can call me Filippo, is my name. What is so special about my progression, or my
system, is that is a winning one. My progression is nuclear science because I am the only one in this
forum that got a bulletproof system. You can believe me or not, I don't care.
I enjoy seeing your perspective on my situation, but I love much more mine! I don't chase losses
since 2011, when I created this system. I lost and won before, with other systems I created, and a lot
before any kind of system crossed my life.
I don't need much hit to recover. My system allow me to play less numbers when I am close to
profit, and more when I am moving away from it. That's the geniality of it. The average hit ratio is
really on machine favor (1/60), so I don't need a very specific combination or luck to win.
I have many spins, many possible combinations, an adjustable progression (I mean adaptable) to
reach my goal. Your warnings, as I said before, were already old 4 years ago...

Almost forgot. I wrote posts about it only here. Any other forum or users with similar content are
not me. And sometimes I regret even to have started this one...