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External import maps support #235

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@guybedford

Currently external import maps are specified here, but in Chrome these still give the error:

External import maps are not yet supported.

I think it could be useful to clearly indicate in the spec that this is an optional feature of the implementation here, or possibly even split it out, given the current movements - especially when other browsers are being asked to consider implementation work.

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  1. domenic commented on Oct 30, 2020

    @domenic
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    We're hoping to implement ASAP, although there may be a 6-week period where they aren't implemented.

  2. guybedford commented on Oct 30, 2020

    @guybedford
    CollaboratorAuthor

    Ok, if that's the plan then this can be closed certainly.

  3. LarsDenBakker commented on Jan 22, 2021

    @LarsDenBakker

    What's the current planning on this?

  4. domenic commented on Jan 22, 2021

    @domenic
    Collaborator

    @hiroshige-g, how's the external import maps implementation going?

  5. guybedford commented on Mar 3, 2021

    @guybedford
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    @domenic thinking about the performance tradeoff here - does encouraging speculative fetching avoid the problem?

  6. internettrans commented on Mar 3, 2021

    @internettrans

    I put together some thoughts and a benchmark in this document about this topic: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IxkNGRIUbvQ0P8Uig9jkFte5gACCn-Y9zO1P5acnE9s/edit#

  7. internettrans commented on Mar 3, 2021

    @internettrans

    One of my main points in that document:

    External import maps can be controlled and cached separately from the HTML files that reference them, which allows for updating javascript resources without busting the cache for the main HTML resource.

  8. canonic-epicure commented on May 21, 2021

    @canonic-epicure

    I believe "external" import maps of course needs to be supported. Its the developer's decision, which one to choose.

    Just stumbled upon this issue. I thought Chrome supports import maps fully. Just when, oh when, web will finally switch to bunder-free development?

    Spend whole day yesterday trying to make Snowpack to work with my app, trying Vite today. Keep filing github issues. Feel my pain. All I need is a simple bare specifier support in few places.

  9. davidmarkclements commented on Jul 7, 2021

    @davidmarkclements

    hey everyone just bumping on this - do we have an updated eta on external import maps anywhere?

  10. nenadvicentic commented on Oct 8, 2021

    @nenadvicentic

    Hi guys, are there any news on this front? Import maps served via API would give us more options/flexibility.

  11. domenic commented on Oct 14, 2021

    @domenic
    Collaborator

    We have continued to fail to gather enough implementation bandwidth in Chromium to ship external import maps, despite them being specified. At this point we're considering removing them from the spec, at least temporarily, and moving them to the "future extensions" section of the README for whenever we have time. Otherwise the spec is just misleading.

    It would be helpful if people who want this feature were able to add a thumbs-up emoji to the original post here. That would help us track developer sentiment on this potential future extension, versus others.

  12. frehner commented on Oct 14, 2021

    @frehner

    For clarity’s sake:

    1. What is the main reason that implementers don’t want to support this?
    2. How many “thumbs up” would be required for it to be considered for staying in the spec? And for implementation?
    3. Is there any actual harm in keeping it in the spec even if it’s not implemented yet?
  13. domenic commented on Oct 14, 2021

    @domenic
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    Good questions.

    What is the main reason that implementers don’t want to support this?

    I don't think anyone doesn't want to support this. Speaking for Chrome at least, the issue is that it's a good amount of work, and we have limited engineers. (E.g. the time I'm spending on import maps today is taking away time from app history, where I know you're also involved.) Nobody on the Chrome team is currently assigned to work on import maps.

    How many “thumbs up” would be required for it to be considered for staying in the spec? And for implementation?

    I don't think we can give a concrete number. Rather, this is a question of us going to our bosses and saying "please assign an engineer to work on import maps". If we do that with 5 thumbs-up, it's pretty weak-sauce. If we do that with five thousand thumbs up, they're going to be excited about making that many developers happy, and probably give us the resources. I assume the real number will be somewhere in between.

    There's also the issue that if we do get that engineer to work on import maps, how do we prioritize external import maps vs. the other future extensions listed in the README, or other open issues (which I'm working on triaging now)? For that, the relative weight of the thumbs-up on different issues can help, although of course it is only a factor and not some sort of binding ranking.

    Is there any actual harm in keeping it in the spec even if it’s not implemented yet?

    Yes. Specifying fiction is harmful to the ecosystem in a number of ways; it misleads developers about what's implemented, and it misleads implementers about what behaviors are solid and debugged and battle-tested. We try to make sure specifications are backed by implementations as part of the working mode for the WHATWG; although this is not a WHATWG spec yet, it hopes to one day graduate to become one.

  14. frehner commented on Oct 14, 2021

    @frehner

    Thank you for the detailed response. 👍🏼

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  17. FluorescentHallucinogen commented on Nov 19, 2023

    @FluorescentHallucinogen
    Contributor

    As an idea, what about a simple polyfill that takes external import map file and inline its content into HTML code? This would allow developers to use external import maps now. This could be implemented both in runtime and at build time (e.g. as a Rollup plugin).

  18. FlippieCoetser commented on Nov 19, 2023

    @FlippieCoetser

    @FluorescentHallucinogen I believe the challenge with the approach you outline is that any javascript that fetches an external file runs async, which runs only after the importmap has been loaded. Ideally, we need support by default for external importmap. Or am I missing something here?

  19. FlippieCoetser commented on Nov 19, 2023

    @FlippieCoetser

    @domenic, I noticed that in the second comment in the list, you provided an estimated timeline. Since it is a rather old comment, could you share your thoughts on when external import maps will be supported? No pressure; I want to calibrate my expectations. Such functionality will really be helpful.

  20. domenic commented on Nov 20, 2023

    @domenic
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    I have no estimate at this time.

  21. FluorescentHallucinogen commented on Nov 20, 2023

    @FluorescentHallucinogen
    Contributor

    @FlippieCoetser

    I believe the challenge with the approach you outline is that any javascript that fetches an external file runs async, which runs only after the importmap has been loaded.

    Not sure about run-time polyfill, but it's definitely possible at build-time (including serving project while developing). I've developed a dirty proof-of-concept, and it works! See modernweb-dev/web#2562 (comment) for more info. 😉

    All tools I know (https://github.com/jsenv/importmap-node-module, https://www.npmjs.com/package/importly) generate import maps as external files.

    BTW, maybe nginx can be configured somehow to inline/inject import map from an external file into the index.html code on the fly. 🤔

  22. nenadvicentic commented on Nov 20, 2023

    @nenadvicentic

    @FluorescentHallucinogen, what you are describing, is not browser polyfil. Your build-time polyfill is a build step, tied to a specific development environment and perhaps specific type of projects and/or project structure. Browser polyfill should be independent of backends and backend tools.

    It is good to know that such tools exist, but let's not mix up build transformation step and discussion about general browser support of a feature.

  23. hjabbing commented on Dec 29, 2023

    @hjabbing

    As a workaround, I point the import value to an index.js file where I re-export the modules (and versions) I want. That way I don't need to modify the page with the importmap which is out of my control, only the index.js which I do have control over. I'm aware that, once a single exported module is imported in the page, all modules are.

  24. bitifet commented on Feb 17, 2024

    @bitifet

    Regarding performance issues I understand that external import maps require an extra network request which may imply an unnecessary delay in SPAs

    But in the case of multi page applications, from my point of view, that small delay in the landing page will be so worth having the rest of pages the user visit will just get it from cache...

    I'm aware that nowadays most developers are tied to one or another framework all of them SPA based*, but MPA's do exist too and, in my opinion, they deserve our attention too.

    (*) I myself love the SPA concept even I believe a mix of both worlds is possible (through multiple entry point SPAs and History API), but that's another history...

    Anyway, don't take me wrong: I'm not voting for or against native support of external imports: I understand it could be a noteworthy amount of work and, hence, it's important to know if it's going to be useful to so many people beforehand.

    But, even it can be polyfilled, it would imply the use of a bundler or, at least, some manual setup.

    And bundlers are great, but they require an extra setup and maintenance effort and not all web applications are Facebook or Twitter. There are also lots of small apps that deserve to see the light and many times they doesn't just due to the time we need to invest in their initial setup.

    In fact I got here while investigating the convenience of adding support for external import maps to esmrouter which is a small package I implemented to ease making all browser-enabled npm packages directly available client side in Express applications.

    And, by the way, it works perfectly with inlined import maps. But I still feel like there's something missing... 😉

  25. canonic-epicure commented on Feb 18, 2024

    @canonic-epicure

    The external import maps are the final step towards the bundlers-free web development. Such a shame, that step is still not done. After ~20 years of web/js existence, you still can not install your dependencies and run your code directly, w/o passing it through the bundlers "meat grinder".

    The workflow that will hopefully exists one day, is simple: you run npm i and in your setup, you specify to run some script after every npm i that will scan all deps and generate an import map file and store it near the package.json. Then in your web page, you just include that import map - and you can use your dependencies immediately.

    Bundlers should only be used for creating a production build of the app. Using bundlers for development is a legacy practice from the CommonJS times, which still dominates because of the lacking imports map support.

  26. klebba commented on May 30, 2024

    @klebba

    Currently it seems that import maps simply will not work within a Chrome Extension context until this is addressed.

  27. guybedford commented on Jun 1, 2024

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    @klebba can you explain further the chrome extension issue here?

  28. klebba commented on Jun 6, 2024

    @klebba

    Sure @guybedford —

    Surprisingly it does not seem to be possible to declare an importmap in a Manifest v3 browser extension context. Inlining the importmap is disallowed by intrinsic CSP rules (even though the script content is JSON). Modifying the innerHTML or textContent of a <script> tag is also disallowed by the intrinsic CSP rules in Manifest v3. In seeking alternatives I found this perpetually disappointing thread.

    There is apparently no method for using an import map that functions today in a Manifest v3 Chrome Extension.

    Related SO thread: https://stackoverflow.com/a/78557452

    Oct 2020:

    We're hoping to implement ASAP, although there may be a 6-week period where they aren't implemented.
    link

    Oct 2021:

    Nobody on the Chrome team is currently assigned to work on import maps.
    link

    May 2024:

    Manifest V2 phase-out begins
    link

    I guess we should expect the Chrome team will imminently implement this feature or risk enduring ever more thumbs up here?

  29. devingfx commented on Jul 13, 2024

    @devingfx
  30. internettrans commented on Sep 30, 2024

    @internettrans

    For anybody looking for a workaround: import-map-injector is a 3kb npm package that supports external import maps by downloading them and then injecting them as a native inline import map

  31. stopsopa commented on Feb 23, 2025

    @stopsopa
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