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[css-counter-styles-3] fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem #8975

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@vitorroriz

As it is being discussed in #8596, it seems the right system for these styles is fixed. With that, the fallback for them becomes more relevant, given they defined just a few symbols (10 and 12). The styles don't explicitly define a fallback, so it is decimal.

I have no knowledge on CJK languages, but I'm wondering if decimal is the best fallback for them. For example, other CJK related styles have cjk-decimal as fallback. So I'd like to discuss if this (or another style) would be a better fallback option here.

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  1. css-meeting-bot commented on Jun 21, 2023

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    The CSS Working Group just discussed [css-counter-styles-3] fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem, and agreed to the following:

    • RESOLVED: Change fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem to cjk-decimal instead of decimal
    • RESOLVED: Republish CR
    The full IRC log of that discussion <TabAtkins> seems reasonable to me too
    <emilio> fantasai: seems reasonable, we should make the change and republish
    <emilio> miriam: objections, anyone need more context?
    <fantasai> emilio: would like someone familiar with cjk to look at it, but otherwise seems fine
    <fantasai> +1 TabAtkins
    <fantasai> TabAtkins: These fall back to cjk-decimal due to matching fullwidth
    <emilio> TabAtkins: all fall back to cjk-decimal because of full-width, same applies to these
    <emilio> RESOLVED: Change fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem to cjk-decimal instead of decimal
    <fantasai> RESOLVED: Republish CR
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    i18n-trackerGroup bringing to attention of Internationalization, or tracked by i18n but not needing response.
    i18n-clreqChinese language enablement
    on Jul 5, 2023
  3. xfq commented on Jul 7, 2023

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    We discussed this issue in the Chinese Layout Task Force Teleconference.

    The consensus of the task force was that cjk-decimal is an improvement over decimal. simp-chinese-informal and trad-chinese-informal are even better, but since cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem do not distinguish between Simplified and Traditional Chinese, we're OK with keeping it as is (cjk-decimal).

  4. vitorroriz commented on Jul 7, 2023

    @vitorroriz
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    @xfq we could create another issue for adding new styles, like: cjk-earthly-brach-simp and cjk-earthly-branch-trad each with a specific fallback.

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    i18n-jlreqJapanese language enablement
    i18n-klreqKorean language enablement
    on Jul 11, 2023
  6. r12a commented on Nov 28, 2023

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    Contributor

    These changes were added to the Ready-made Counter Styles doc editor's draft.

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