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Since We Fell
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This is going to be one of those pain in the ass books to review because you can’t really talk about it without spoiling it, and the things that really need to be discussed all happen later in the plot. Yet there’s so much wrong that I really want to get into all of it. It’s quite a dilemma.
Here’s what I can safely tell you: Rachel Childs’ mother refused to tell her who her father is which leads to a troubled childhood and rebellious teenage years. After her mother’s death Rachel follows up on various clues as she finishes school and becomes a rising star in TV journalism. While reporting in a disaster zone she experiences some terrible events that lead to the derailment of her career and crippling panic attacks that leave her a shut-in almost completely unable to deal with the world outside her apartment. Then some other things happen…
This really seems like two different books. The opening sentence tells us immediately that Rachel is headed for big trouble, but then it jumps way back to her childhood. We spend a lot of time with her growing up and being obsessed with tracking down her long lost father. This goes on for so long that it fools you into thinking that the book is more of a character drama/romance type of thing instead of a straight-up mystery/thriller, and I was actually enjoying this part.
After the turn we know is coming happens it seems like we’re in the territory of a Lifetime movie, but the book still had its head above water at this point. That’s when this plot which had been looking like a psychological suspense thriller turns into something else completely which stretches the suspension of disbelief way past the manufacturer’s recommended limits, and it shatters completely.
I yelled "Oh, bullshit!" so many times during this second part that I sounded like someone walking across a cow pasture wearing his best shoes. (view spoiler)
I’m a huge fan of Dennis Lehane so this is really disappointing. Now I know how a teacher feels when their favorite student hands in a rotten paper, and they have to give it an F. I suspect that a lot of readers will find the first half boring and pointless compared to the second half, or like me, they'll be more intrigued by the character based first part and think the rest is complete nonsense.
Lehane just got way too cute for his own good here as well as not seeming to have a good handle on what kind of book he was doing. While the writing itself is solid and Rachel is a pretty decent character it’s like he tried to make a peanut butter and tuna fish sandwich, and the results taste about as good as that sounds.
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Here’s what I can safely tell you: Rachel Childs’ mother refused to tell her who her father is which leads to a troubled childhood and rebellious teenage years. After her mother’s death Rachel follows up on various clues as she finishes school and becomes a rising star in TV journalism. While reporting in a disaster zone she experiences some terrible events that lead to the derailment of her career and crippling panic attacks that leave her a shut-in almost completely unable to deal with the world outside her apartment. Then some other things happen…
This really seems like two different books. The opening sentence tells us immediately that Rachel is headed for big trouble, but then it jumps way back to her childhood. We spend a lot of time with her growing up and being obsessed with tracking down her long lost father. This goes on for so long that it fools you into thinking that the book is more of a character drama/romance type of thing instead of a straight-up mystery/thriller, and I was actually enjoying this part.
After the turn we know is coming happens it seems like we’re in the territory of a Lifetime movie, but the book still had its head above water at this point. That’s when this plot which had been looking like a psychological suspense thriller turns into something else completely which stretches the suspension of disbelief way past the manufacturer’s recommended limits, and it shatters completely.
I yelled "Oh, bullshit!" so many times during this second part that I sounded like someone walking across a cow pasture wearing his best shoes. (view spoiler)
I’m a huge fan of Dennis Lehane so this is really disappointing. Now I know how a teacher feels when their favorite student hands in a rotten paper, and they have to give it an F. I suspect that a lot of readers will find the first half boring and pointless compared to the second half, or like me, they'll be more intrigued by the character based first part and think the rest is complete nonsense.
Lehane just got way too cute for his own good here as well as not seeming to have a good handle on what kind of book he was doing. While the writing itself is solid and Rachel is a pretty decent character it’s like he tried to make a peanut butter and tuna fish sandwich, and the results taste about as good as that sounds.
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Brandon wrote: "This was just too much for me at times. I think I gave it an extra star because I had a hard time believing Lehane could produce a two-star read. I think I need to go back and change it..."
It caused me almost physical pain to two star the guy who gave us Gone, Baby, Gone and Mystic River, but this was a huge let down.
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It caused me almost physical pain to two star the guy who gave us Gone, Baby, Gone and Mystic River, but this was a huge let down.
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Kemper wrote: "It caused me almost physical pain to two star the guy who gave us Gone, Baby, Gone and Mystic River, but this was a huge let down.."
I picked up Moonlight Mile the other day as I needed some Patrick & Angie to remind me just how good Lehane is.
I picked up Moonlight Mile the other day as I needed some Patrick & Angie to remind me just how good Lehane is.
"While the writing itself is solid and Rachel is a pretty decent character it’s like he tried to make a peanut butter and tuna fish sandwich, and the results taste about as good as that sounds."
That doesn't sound good....at all....in no way shape or form!!!
Seems an awful shame that a beloved author could write a clunker like that. I'll have to see for myself, I suppose, but I feel a little disheartened already. Appreciate your take on this one, Kemper.
Enjoyed "Moonlight Mile", hope you do as well.
That doesn't sound good....at all....in no way shape or form!!!
Seems an awful shame that a beloved author could write a clunker like that. I'll have to see for myself, I suppose, but I feel a little disheartened already. Appreciate your take on this one, Kemper.
Enjoyed "Moonlight Mile", hope you do as well.
I've always regarded Lehane quite highly, so it's a shame to see that he's gotten sloppy and let himself go with this recent offering. I hate when good authors don't even try anymore.
Great review, I think I'll give this one a miss.
Great review, I think I'll give this one a miss.
Mike wrote: ""That doesn't sound good....at all....in no way shape or form!!!..."
Yeah, either one would be fine by themselves, but trying to mix the two just doesn't fly at all. I liked Moonlight Mile, maybe not as much as the other P&A books, but it was a good way to close out the series.
Yeah, either one would be fine by themselves, but trying to mix the two just doesn't fly at all. I liked Moonlight Mile, maybe not as much as the other P&A books, but it was a good way to close out the series.
J. wrote: "I've always regarded Lehane quite highly, so it's a shame to see that he's gotten sloppy and let himself go with this recent offering. I hate when good authors don't even try anymore. ..."
To be fair, this isn't a lack of effort. If anything, I think he was trying too hard to be clever. And his talent still shines through in a lot of places in it. It's more like he just took a wrong turn in his plotting and/or thought he could start the book in one place and then swerve it to another, and it just doesn't work. I'd call it more misguided than a case of him just phoning it in.
To be fair, this isn't a lack of effort. If anything, I think he was trying too hard to be clever. And his talent still shines through in a lot of places in it. It's more like he just took a wrong turn in his plotting and/or thought he could start the book in one place and then swerve it to another, and it just doesn't work. I'd call it more misguided than a case of him just phoning it in.
Kemper wrote: "Melissa wrote: "But damn if [spoilers removed] isn't a great movie."
Agreed. [spoilers removed]"
This is how I'm going to describe this book in case anyone asks me.
Agreed. [spoilers removed]"
This is how I'm going to describe this book in case anyone asks me.
Eve wrote: "I appreciate your honesty, still, I'm probably gonna read this eventually..."
I heard it wasn't great, but still felt compelled to check it out as a Lehane fans so I think most of us will feel the need to see for ourselves.
I heard it wasn't great, but still felt compelled to check it out as a Lehane fans so I think most of us will feel the need to see for ourselves.
Diane wrote: "Great review, Kemper. Do you have a favorite Lehane book you'd recommend?"
Mystic River is probably his best, and it's a stand-alone. Gone, Baby, Gone is another favorite of mine, but it's part of his PI series. It could be read by itself, but I think it's a bit more of an emotional punch if you've read the series to that point. And both have also been adapted into great movies.
Mystic River is probably his best, and it's a stand-alone. Gone, Baby, Gone is another favorite of mine, but it's part of his PI series. It could be read by itself, but I think it's a bit more of an emotional punch if you've read the series to that point. And both have also been adapted into great movies.
I'll still read it, but I've been worried about this one since I found out Dennis was tackling a female protagonist. I love Angie, but even she's written as a bit of a cartoon sometimes....
Kemper wrote: "Melissa wrote: "This is how I'm going to describe this book in case anyone asks me."
[spoilers removed]"
You should come to my work & do reader's advisory, you're a natural.
[spoilers removed]"
You should come to my work & do reader's advisory, you're a natural.
P wrote: "I'll still read it, but I've been worried about this one since I found out Dennis was tackling a female protagonist. I love Angie, but even she's written as a bit of a cartoon sometimes...."
I actually thought he did a good job with the character of Rachel. That was one of the parts that I was liking in the first half of the book.
I actually thought he did a good job with the character of Rachel. That was one of the parts that I was liking in the first half of the book.
Diane wrote: "Thanks for the recs! He's so prolific it's hard to know where to start."
No problem. Hope you like them.
No problem. Hope you like them.
Kemper wrote: "Melissa wrote: "You should come to my work & do reader's advisory, you're a natural."
What's it pay?"
You'd have the unwavering appreciation of my colleagues & you wouldn't have to pay library fines.
What's it pay?"
You'd have the unwavering appreciation of my colleagues & you wouldn't have to pay library fines.
Melissa wrote: "You'd have the unwavering appreciation of my colleagues & you wouldn't have to..."
You might have to toss in a free sandwich as a sweetener to that deal.
You might have to toss in a free sandwich as a sweetener to that deal.
Kemper wrote: "Melissa wrote: "You'd have the unwavering appreciation of my colleagues & you wouldn't have to..."
You might have to toss in a free sandwich as a sweetener to that deal."
There's this bakery near my house that makes the greatest banh mi . . .
You might have to toss in a free sandwich as a sweetener to that deal."
There's this bakery near my house that makes the greatest banh mi . . .
Kemper wrote: "Dan wrote: "Brandon and Kemper -
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[spoilers removed]"
Not just a comic book. A comic book that isn't in continuity this week.
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[spoilers removed]"
Not just a comic book. A comic book that isn't in continuity this week.
Michael wrote: "Brandon took the words out of my mouth. I should just wait for your reviews."
I saw that a lot of people weren't very happy with this one before I tried it so it sounds like we're all burning ourselves on the hot stove this time.
I saw that a lot of people weren't very happy with this one before I tried it so it sounds like we're all burning ourselves on the hot stove this time.
Dan wrote: "Not just a comic book. A comic book that isn't in continuity this week."
You know what they say: If you don't like the current comic book continuity just wait five minutes, and it'll change.
You know what they say: If you don't like the current comic book continuity just wait five minutes, and it'll change.
Oh, dear, mixed messages here.
Kemper wrote: "...it’s like he tried to make a peanut butter and tuna fish sandwich, and the results taste about as good as that sounds."
That's actually quite good, says the person who often eats it (though straight up, not as a sandwich filling). Which I'm pretty sure isn't what you meant to imply here...
(There's always someone, eh?)
Kemper wrote: "...it’s like he tried to make a peanut butter and tuna fish sandwich, and the results taste about as good as that sounds."
That's actually quite good, says the person who often eats it (though straight up, not as a sandwich filling). Which I'm pretty sure isn't what you meant to imply here...
(There's always someone, eh?)
Your review is right on target with how I felt while reading the book, and after I finished it. Dennis Lehane is one of my top 5 favourite writers; I put everything else aside when I receive a new Lehane novel. The first part was so good (I almost feels like a great John Irving story. Disappointed by the second part that could have been better on its own.
Jan wrote: "That's actually quite good, says the person who often eats it (though straight up, not as a sandwich filling). Which I'm pretty sure isn't what you meant to imply here......"
*shudder*
*shudder*
Man, I hate it when you don't like a book that I've been looking forward to because that pretty much guarantees that I'm not going to like it either.
James wrote: "Man, I hate it when you don't like a book that I've been looking forward to because that pretty much guarantees that I'm not going to like it either."
Sorry. But don't blame me, blame Lehane!
Sorry. But don't blame me, blame Lehane!
I suspect that a lot of readers will find the first half boring and pointless compared to the second half, or like me, they'll be more intrigued by the character based first part and think the rest is complete nonsense. (I fell into the latter category. I love character driven books.)
I am a big fan of Lahane. Mystic River & Shutter Island are two of my favorites. But this one missed the mark. All the back story was pointless. Was it a way for her to meet Brian? A justification and explanation of her phobias? I have no idea!
Yup... all the yup’s. Although my 3-Star review was a little kinder— cuz I liked both halves of that pb and tuna sandwich— just not smashed together as the same book!!
I do not have a lot invested in loving the author so it was easy for me just to think he was trying to emphasize how the same person can be both very good and very bad. And he could say it through a very intriguing story that kept me hooked to the very end and then wondering what happened next. I only gave it three stars because of the obvious believability factor.
This was just too much for me at times. I think I gave it an extra star because I had a hard time believing Lehane could produce a two-star read. I think I need to go back and change it.
(view spoiler)[Brian having a fucking oxygen tank stored under water on the off-chance that he believes Rachel will dive in after him to confirm the kill/try to save him was so unbelievable that it made me angry. And the book is filled with stuff like that! (hide spoiler)]