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IDLE: support Command-click on window title on macOS #88516
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assignee='https://github.com/terryjreedy'closed_at=Nonecreated_at=<Date2021-06-08.18:13:50.362>labels= ['OS-mac', 'expert-IDLE', '3.11']
title='IDLE: support Command-click on window title on macOS'updated_at=<Date2021-06-08.21:25:08.906>user='https://github.com/aivarannamaa'
changed the title [-]Make IDLE support Command-click on window title on macOS[/-][+]IDLE: support Command-click on window title on macOS[/+]on Jun 8, 2021
To be clearer than I was before, I support adding mac specific things, but I am opposed to removing cross-platform features when that makes IDLE on mac harder to use by a non-Mac user, such as me.
My memory of looking at file-proxy icons on other Mac Catalina apps is that there was hardly consistent behavior, but TextEdit and Script Editor both show the path components after control- or command-click. The problem is discoverability. The IDLE doc should gain an IDLE on Mac section, or maybe 'OS Differences'.
Save state: Neither TextEdit nor Script Editor put a dot in the upper left red close circle. Both add -- edited to the (short) filename. A little black dot does not seem standard, and it might be hard to see, and would not be visible to non-Mac users. Add it but please leave *s.
To be clearer than I was before, I support adding mac specific things, but I am opposed to removing cross-platform features when that makes IDLE on mac harder to use by a non-Mac user, such as me.
My memory of looking at file-proxy icons on other Mac Catalina apps is that there was hardly consistent behavior, but TextEdit and Script Editor both show the path components after control- or command-click. The problem is discoverability. The IDLE doc should gain an IDLE on Mac section, or maybe 'OS Differences'.
Save state: Neither TextEdit nor Script Editor put a dot in the upper left red close circle. Both add -- edited to the (short) filename. A little black dot does not seem standard, and it might be hard to see, and would not be visible to non-Mac users. Add it but please leave *s.
I've reverted that part of the change, I agree that keeping them is nicer for cross platform consistency.
Long term it might be nicer to look into using some other way to indicate change (such as one of the unicode bullet characters like ●, possibly with a different colour), but that's for a different issue and would require cross platform testing.
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aivarannamaa commentedon Jun 8, 2021
Many macOS apps show location info about current document on command-clicking on window title.
I just found out how to do it in Tkinter, so I wanted to share it in case someone wants to add it for IDLE: https://sourceforge.net/p/tcl/mailman/tcl-mac/thread/CAEbkakfc%2B5hUGMyWpjGF2DO7dWOX-3AyR8UOjGfbP8djWWtG-A%40mail.gmail.com/#msg37298382
[-]Support[/-][+]Support Command-click on window title on macOS[/+][-]Support[/-][+]Support Command-click on window title on macOS[/+]aivarannamaa commentedon Jun 8, 2021
In short:
Passing empty string as the second argument turned the feature off.
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terryjreedy commentedon Feb 3, 2024
To be clearer than I was before, I support adding mac specific things, but I am opposed to removing cross-platform features when that makes IDLE on mac harder to use by a non-Mac user, such as me.
My memory of looking at file-proxy icons on other Mac Catalina apps is that there was hardly consistent behavior, but TextEdit and Script Editor both show the path components after control- or command-click. The problem is discoverability. The IDLE doc should gain an IDLE on Mac section, or maybe 'OS Differences'.
Save state: Neither TextEdit nor Script Editor put a dot in the upper left red close circle. Both add
-- editedto the (short) filename. A little black dot does not seem standard, and it might be hard to see, and would not be visible to non-Mac users. Add it but please leave *s.ronaldoussoren commentedon Feb 10, 2024
I've reverted that part of the change, I agree that keeping them is nicer for cross platform consistency.
Long term it might be nicer to look into using some other way to indicate change (such as one of the unicode bullet characters like ●, possibly with a different colour), but that's for a different issue and would require cross platform testing.
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