>the perfect compact FF camera doesnt exi-ACKPreviously: >>4507402
>>4509022>you can only use first party lensesfucking dropped
>>4509022>the perfect compact FF camera doesnt exi-ACK
I'm looking to upgrade from my d3300. When I got it I was only interested in taking photos mainly portraits, but the occasional landscape and nature photo. In the decade since I have branched out into product photography and due to my work it would be a great assistance to be able to do good quality video content for my work. This will be talking head videos and product videos. In the video department the d3300 isn't cutting it, it's just awkward and I need better lower light performance. I have a dx35mm prime lens a af-s 50mm 1.8 a af-p DC 70-300. Overall I am content with the optical quality of these lenses but I think I'm going to need wider angle lenses. And ultimately given Nikon seems to be moving away from f mount these lenses will be junk eventually. What is the general recommendation here for my use case
>>4509065>ultimately given Nikon seems to be moving away from f mount these lenses will be junk eventually. If you buy a decent F mount mirrorless now, you'll still be set for years with all the old lenses since you'll still use the camera for years to come. I don't know enough about Nikon to recommend a specific camera but a mirrorless is what you'll want if video is needed.
>>4509065Z5II/Z50II if you want to stay with Nikon, but none of those lenses are really worth staying Nikon for
Looking at a rx100 vii for general hiking & bird watching photography. Been looking for a rx10 iv but they're rare and overpriced; I'm just looking for a camera I can have autistic fun with and my wife can also grab and use without swapping lenses on a hike. Any words of wisdom, O /p/?
>>4509147Is there a decent standard lens for Z5II? It seems really appealing but the only Nikon 40mm is a "budget" lens. I looked at the 7artisans 40mm and I'm not really sure if it's up to scratch... I did look at a few 35mm lenses for Z-mount, too (Nikon have three) but none of them seem so compelling that I'd sell all my current gear to trade up.
>new r series body>only 6.8 more MP What went wrong?
>>4509152The f1.4 primes are pretty budget, I would definitely look at other options like maybe an older Sony/Canon mirrorless if those aren't budget for you
>>4509152The 50 1.8 Z is also excellent for the price and relatively cheap
>>4509022>compact FF>camon r6v with 20 50 f4you retarded or what?
>>4509163they went for the video market insteadthis camera better make A7R V cheaper so I can buy one
>>4509163How many mp do you need?
>>4509163>>4509174I'm new to this but want an a7cr. Any idea when to see an effect on used prices and how much?
>>4509177This won't have an effect on used a7cr prices
>>4509179Aww. I thought it was similar in specs to rv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDhbKSdqqb8THIS KILLS THE CANON
new garbage just dropped
>>4509193this is great,can't wait for when they put them in cameras
Thought the X100 series was popular but nobody replies to my X100T ad
Will 2026 be the year of JXL? Should I start developing my new raw images into JXL?
>>4509150If you don't care about EVF a Canon G3X is the smallest with biggest zoom range on 1" sensor.If you do care about EVF get a FZ1000 mk1 or mk2 (FZ2000 is okay too but a little bigger / heavier).
>>4509213Wasn't on my radar but looks sweet. Appreciate it.
>bought fast lenses without realizing my r50 only goes to 1/4000 shutter>have to put the cope sunglasses or buy the r7
>>4509245It will do 1/8k in electronic shutter, and as long as you keep and eye on your highlights you can over expose and bring it down.
>>4509022just come to have a whinge about eBay's new seller fee policy since I already sold a couple grand worth of bodies and lenses in the last year. if I had sold them NOW... I wouldn't have lost 13.4% of my sales to eBay. whinge over. hoping I can take advantage of this and that it will also make prices better on used gear going forward since hobby sellers won't have to compensate for eBay's cut.
Will consumers ever be able to obtain good digital cameras that are capable of taking good color photos, or are we stuck with the current garbage (and trends) that we have today?Every single camera on the market truly sucks right now and I don't like it.I never shoot at ISO 1600 but even at ISO 64 any scene with really vibrant colors never functions properly.Bright colorful LEDs?Haha, they're clipping their appropriate color channel but also boosting the other ones, because sensitivity overlap, causing your on-sensor capture to be skewed into a mutt bastard false color. For example when something is equal to RGB 255 / 0 / 0 in real life like a very bright red LED, the sensitivity overlap means some of that red's intensity actually gets recorded in your greens and blue photosites. If you ever clip that red, you lose color context. Basically if the sensor would record a pure color in a 100%/15%/3% ratio, a profile can try to cope around that and consider anything 100%/15%/3% equivalent to red. If that red ever gets overexposed you can't go above 100% at capture, so 2-stop overexposed would be 400%/ 60%/12% in theory but limited to 100%/60%/12% in practice. In other words not even fucking close to the red and completely beyond repair.No color profiling can cope around this.Phase One and their "Trichromatic" design is how all sensors should be made.Some older CCDs performed closer to that then they do today.I'm so tired of all these "influencers" shilling "color science" memes and algorithmic slop and insisting digital is editable. It isn't. I want better data capture, and don't care about sports ISO. I will never use Lightroom or download some presets or want to "grade" with fake color painting/masking.I just want closer to WYSIWYG output than what is currently available from anything you can buy today.Is this going to be an eternal hell or will something save us from this mess? Phones maybe? I don't trust Jap camera brands. They have failed us.
>>4509022just ordered an olympus stylus 1, how retarded am I?
>>4509260sigma foveonI will not forgetI have hope it will come
>>4509261>how retarded am I?depends on what you want to do with itspill the beans
Is there any logical reason for the Canon G12 to be priced at over 500 bucks when similar models and perhaps even better ones in the same form factor go for way below that? It has to be one of the strangest examples of tiktok zoomzoom camera hype I have seen.
>>4509263>>4509263cheaper thing to chuck it in the jacket pocket when I don't want to carry around my main camera + lensDoesn't cost a billion dollarydoos, packs up pretty small, 28-300mm lens range with constant f2.8, evf and apparently compatible with the modern OM app.
>>4509262While Foveon avoids moire and results in higher quality by capturing full RGB per output pixel, the tech does nothing to address these color issues. There is significant overlapping still and that means it shares the same problem.Foveon isn't a cure and is essentially an over hyped meme because the people producing it are fraudulent retards who lie about specs.
>>4509259Is this the no more seller fee thing? Is that a worldwide thing? I still dont get how the sellers pay nothing and now the buyers pay the fees. As a buyer i wouldnt even touch ebay and go buy from amazon where i don't have to pay for a fee to use the service...
>>4509260>wall of whiningI bet you take great photos
>>4509260>>4509268Who are some industry experts or accomplished photographers talking about this issue?
>>4509260>I'm so tired of all these "influencers" shilling "color science" memes and algorithmic slop and insisting digital is editableAnd we're all tired of slop posts like this on the board
Z5, Z6, A7III or A7C? I mostly take photos of scenery and aircraft and am trying to minimize size and weight due to an injury. The Z5 is kind of slow and not much cheaper than Z6s, and I'm not sure if I'm better off performance wise getting a Z6 or if it will be equivalent with an A7III or A7C. The A7C is very tempting because it's very light.I would like to keep my Nikon lenses like my 24-70 f2.8, 400mm f4D (non AFS), 50mm F1.4, and I understand they're all adaptable but the screw drive lenses won't AF anymore so I know I'll probably want to buy the AF-S versions eventually. I currently have a D600.
>>4509274If you're getting mirrorless, no point in investing for the AF-S versionsI would honestly just get a D850 if your wanting to use your existing stuff, or a7c if down to start from scratch
>>4509275>If you're getting mirrorless, no point in investing for the AF-S versionsNTA but AF-S is mandatory to retain AF with mirrorless.
>>4509277No shitIf you have a Z, you should put your money into Z glass, not upgrading your AF-D to AF-SOr just get one of the working AF-D adapters
>>4509275>I would honestly just get a D850Ok, that's cool, but like I said I am looking at mirrorless because they're smaller and lighter but still FF not because I want to upgrade to newer better gear. Basically mirrorless is a no-brainer way to shave half a pound or more from my hiking gear to help compensate and get to my more strenuous day hikes in the mountains.>>4509277This + I am looking at used cameras, for example I'd be going from my screw drive 300mm F4 which won't AF on a mirrorless to a 300 F4 AF-S, it's still a 10 year old used lens. I'm sure the Z mount or E mount equivalent of the 300mm F4 is amazing, but it's probably also $2,000+ and I don't use my telephoto often enough for that to be worth it. I read about the LA-FZ1 for screw drive lenses and it seems like it sucks ass and would not be worth it to adapt a couple of old $400 lenses.
>>4509279>no-brainer way to shave half a pound or moreExcept the bodies you listed save you 85g, 125g or 165g, so more like a quarter lb, that then gets eaten up by the extra battery or two you'd want to bringIf going mirrorless, swapping to the Z 24-70 or 28-75 would save you even more weight than that
>>4509022>no viewfinder>0 shutter curtains>BRUH ITS FOR VIDEO>EVERY 460P TIKTOK NEEDE 8K LOG>photography with canon is PROS ONLY ok just use the r50 that your phone mogs or this hideous oversized blob that will never leave the house>yes sony please outsell our FF lines with a compromised POS as janky as the a7c. we are happy to make all our money off phone tier IQ mini-blobs. I am getting so fucking sick of how fucking uselessly retarded japanese product designers are. Sell canon to a superior country that isnt stuck in fucking 2013 like china and all of a sudden leica would be obsolete and cameras would be solved. Every FF body would be a rangefinder design with small lenses (anyone notice ONLY CHINA makes small primes, even other brands like sony? japan can only make oversized lenses) except for the pros-only sports blobs. And it would be glorious. Japanese stupidity and stubbornness is killing real camera photography. Not phones. The fact no one wants to blow $2000 on a blob or settle for a viewfinderless, shutterless camcorder that only offers still life IQ over their phone. The free market doesnt work. Companies have to be told what to do by experts in the government, not by what a committee of MBAs and yakuza nepotism hires thinks brainwashed <100IQ consoomers want. The only brands making anything resembling the cameras people actually want are sony and fuji, the two with the strongest ties to china. Go figure.
>>450917680-100MP would have been the next logical step.
>>4509274a7cYou have no idea yet, but every nikon worse than the newest/best models (z5ii, z8 n shit) has worse autofocus than a d850/d750. More coverage but also worse in low light and prone to hunting, hesitation, and false positives in any light. And unlike canon and sony, they cant do open aperture viewfinding so your aperture setting will affect viewfinder quality and af speed up to f5.6. Nikon promises some -# EV ratings but these only mean the camera can lock focus in af-s when its that dark, not that the autofocus works well. The a7c is an old and very basic, crippled camera and still has better core autofocus than any nikon Z camera (minus crutches like a bird specific detection mode). You either buy a sony, a canon blobmera, or a fujifilm. Nikon is only a pixel peeper brand now. They put all their effort into fully corrected lenses and none into their cameras, which are just sony sensors with an afterthought body and a mount designed by optics engineers for max pixel peep (so also, every Z lens is front heavy)
>>4509163Is this like when shills said the a7v was the same as the a7iv because of some absent video gimmick, but neglected to mention it has the same DR has the hasselblad x2d II? Kek>67mp>10 mech/30 elec FPS (vs the ogs being 7fps in 14 bit)>8.5 stop IBIS (ogs were effectively 4 stop)>finally a bigger battery meant for mirrorless instead of a reused DSLR pack designSony won. Again. They always do. They have superior engineers and designers due to their closer connections with china, the US, and israel. Other companies simply lack creative people on staff.
>>4509287How many mp do you need?
>Currently in Japan>I had like 3 lenses I wanted to buy, including some Cosina-Voigtlander ones (lile the recent 40mm Septon) I can rarely find at home, and certainly not with prices as good as in Japan.>Suddenly this is about to release, and covers some of what I was about to buyI love it and I also fucking hate it at the same time. Love it as It's my dream zoom lens, internal, compact enough, bright enough, my most used foc ranges, 10 aperture blades, AF, and cheap to boot. And I hate it because now all my plans are jumbled up and I have only a few days left to decide what to do before I fly back, with regrets if I make the wrong choice.Sometimes I wish I didn't get to experience having the luxury of choice.
>>4509292based china keeping boomer cameras on life support by releasing lenses boomers dont consider essential>a huhwut? all ya need is the sharpest possible 24-70 f2.8 son. lets zoom in on those corners. yup. compromised. do ya even shoot landscapes? i’d rather carry a bigger zoom kid, you’ll need to back this chinese scam lens up with a good prime made in japan or germany. now sigma art, that’s a 24-70 f2.8. they dont call them holy trinity lenses for nuttin. yup. *flips burger*
A pentaxA 50mm 1.4 came with my ME super I bought off fbm. It had a little fungus in the rear element but I'm no stranger to screwdrivers and I thought it would be super easy to pull the back off and cleanThe cleaning was super easy but I must've used too much force because after I reassembled, the apeture ring wouldnt move. I pulled the back plate off and I didn't realize the back plate was the only thing keeping the apeture ring in placeGood news is taking the apeture ring off and putting it back on fixed the issue. Bad news is I lost a little plate used to push the auto apeture pin up to make contact with the body. It's just a manual apeture lens now unless I can miraculously find the plate somewhere in my room or find a broken lens for cheap that I can steal parts fromPicrel is the rest of the little parts than make up the pin system
A7CII is my daily driver and travel camera.X-H1 for when I’m feeling artsy or teaching someone about triangles and shit, or need better range because crop.Would sell a kidney if Sony ever made an A9C
When will they release a fisheye (for canon RF aps-c)? Please give me hope.
>>4509290?
>>4509163Did they at least finally fix the moire issues?
>>4509311>80-100MP would have been the next logical step.Doesn't answer how many you need, so I asked again.
>>4509163IQ falling apart past 3200.
>>4509289>Sony won. Again. They always do. They have superior engineers and designers due to their closer connections with china, the US, and israel. Other companies simply lack creative people on staff.lol Sony's firmware is the jankiest crap imaginable. It has the fit and finish of a one-man hobby Linux distro. It is significantly worse than Fujifilm's, which is bad.
>>4509317What has my personal needs got to do with how many MP this camera model should have? What point are you trying to make here?
>>4509321>What has my personal needs got to do with how many MP this camera model should have?They don'tI just wanted to know how much mp you needSeems like an a easy question to answerIf I was asking what you think it should have, that's a good answer, but I didn't ask thatIs there a point you're trying to make by being so evasive about a simple question?
>>4509321I can rephrase if it helps with a different question, how many mp would you feel satisfied with and not want or expect more? Or do you not have a practical upper bound for your use cases?
>>4509325>>4509326>camera model specifically made for high resolution >new version doesn't increase its resolution.. and that's a good thing!
>>4509325>>4509326Completely irrelevant question, shitty strawman attempt. Just because he doesn't need more, or you don't need more, doesn't mean more is pointless.
>>4509022What's a good camera for my mom?>not too expensive or it won't get used>fixed focal length preferred>close-up for flowers>easy file transfer to smartphone>not chunkyWhat camera does your mom use?
>>4509352>What camera does your mom use?Her phone.
>>4509352canon r100 with a used sigma 23mm
>>4509329>>4509332>shitty strawmanDo you not see the irony in doing a strawman of what I've clearly said? Who said anymore is pointless? Have I said how many I need? Gonna do some more strawman because you can't answer a simple question about your own use cases?
Why would anyone want to set their camera to store smaller than the full/native image size?
>>4509395If you have an output where you know the resolution is "enough", no reason to waste storage space. Depending on your camera, it might also improve your buffer capacity or even FPS for burst shooting.If you were doing timelapses on a D850, you don't really need to shoot the full 45mp if your intending to make a 4k timelapse, the mRAW option is already ~6k equivalent, and the sRAW is slightly past 4k on its own.If you were shooting a wedding on a D850, storage can be a thing, and there are plenty of wedding shots that would be just fine captured at "only" 25mp.Most of the time you're better off just shooting full resolution though, there are too many cons otherwise for so few niche pros.
>>4509326>Sony’s latest upgrade is mild for the price hike. What a disappointment. The R line has always been for hobby shooters to crop shit to death and still display big photos. Instead they’re just catering to the AP’s underpaid interns spray and pray addiction. Another company down. The arts and hobbies market no longer drives the camera industry. Corporate contracts do. The future of cameras belongs to billionaire media monopolies. Guess we’re done having excuses to upgrade, dudes. a7rv forever. They’re not getting my five grand for yet another FPS bump. >*turns camera away from corgi* DID SOMEONE JUST SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT A CORPORATION? THAT THERE IS NO MORE NEED TO CONSOOM THEIR LATEST PRODUCTS!?>DO YOU HATE CAMERAS AND PHOTOGRAPHY? HOW MANY MEGAPIXELS DO YOU NEED HUH? GIVE ME AN EXACT FIGURE. DIDNT THINK SO. SHUT UP AND ADMIT THAT SONY’S NEWEST CAMERA IS GREAT AND CAN TAKE GREAT PHOTOS. Why are you like this?
>>4509403Did you forget to answer the question?How many mp would you feel satisfied with and not want or expect more? Or do you not have a practical upper bound for your use cases?Why are those impossible questions to simply answer? Do you have no idea what you need? That's a perfectly fine answer.You seem to care an awful lot about resolution, so I just wanted to know how much you need. Strange to be so evasive on such a simple and relevant question.
>>4509395If the lens isn't sharp enough there's no point wasting storage space on blurry megapixels.
>>4509406This is a good callout.With excellent lenses, the resolution increase matters much more.With bad lenses, the resolution increase becomes very marginal.
>>4509405>leave the corporation aloneA sub 10% resolution increase is pathetic for a $4,499.99 camera from a product line focused on resolution. Sony will not be getting my five grand. If they want five grand they can sell bulk a7rvi’s to whatever fucking news agencies they’re contracted with since they’re the people who need FPS and absurdly high resolution, croppable video. I recommend that no one else give sony their five grand if they aren’t working for NBC or filming college hoops. Suck a cock. >give me a concrete number!It takes at least 25% increase for most 4k-8k screen users to appreciate a visible difference, and that’s the low end. Sorry corporate simp, but the company whose cock you suck launched a dud for the people and a gem for their friends in business, and not only is no one here buying it, we are telling everyone else to save their money and use what they have, because prior cameras were already great (way better than say, a fuji). Sorry. The billionaire conglomerate simply won’t be getting any money from /p/. Deal with it. >n-n-no the newest product is always a great buy, and people who consoom the new product deserve respect and upvotes!No. Maybe try hanging out on reddit? They’re more in tune with that attitude of yours. 4chan has always been an anti-consumerist website. /p/ stands for pentax. Remember?
>>4509413>I actually can't read, that's why I can't answer simple and direct questions>Now I will straw man to avoid the simple questions being askedYou are part of the reason why the board sucks>It takes at least 25% increase for most 4k-8k screen users to appreciate a visible difference, and that’s the low endOkay, so given that, how many MP do you need? I'm not asking about other people's screens, I want to know about you, you are a person right?>4chan has always been an anti-consumerist website.True, but /p/ hasn't always been this anti-camera and I've been on 4chan longer than you bb
>>4509416Cameras have never been worse for the average person. Prices keep going up while features people actually use either stagnate or vanish to generate more excuses for bought and paid for influencers to talk people into getting their “setup” on the consumer treadmill. >sure, its now missing the viewfinder, but its not for that. that’s why you also buy this camera, like me, a pro (i shot a wedding). specialize bro. if both these cameras had all their features i’d have two interchangeable cameras and that wouldn’t be nearly as professional. This isn’t tiresome to you? Sorry you’re a consumerist.
>>4509421>Cameras have never been worse for the average person.With what respects?>Prices keep going upDepends on what you're looking at, and if you account for inflation, the relative cost on most gear is way down.>while features people actually use either stagnate or vanishWhat are some examples of this for you? There are lots of newer features I'm very thankful for and would be happy to share if you do as well, but I'm guessing I'll get another non-answer.>This isn’t tiresome to you?I enjoy talking about photography and cameras.>Sorry you’re a consumerist.Says the one hyper fixating on consuming gear instead of, you know, photography.
>>4509430>>4509430>communists are the real capitalists. just look at how much they know about capitalism! clearly they are money obsessed entrepeneurs. >the real gearfags are those fucking nerds telling people the newest product isn’t a straight upgrade and expensive cameras can be bad decisions>democrats are the real racists. Buddy you are a child with a stolen portfolio, pictures of your parents dog, a bunch of poorly selected gear, and a tendency to furiously argue against “upgrading” from expensive low performance cameras to cheap higher performance ones and coincidentally, you only use expensive low performance fashion accessory cameras and seem to live with your parents. You recently got worked up into a tizzy because an anon said the SNOY a7r6 wasn’t a big enough resolution upgrade to be worth his $4500 and started repeatedly asking>how many megapixels do you need? EXACTLY HOW MANY MEGAPIXELS DO YOU NEED? ANSWER MEEE GIVE ME THE EXACT NUMBER OF MEGAPIXELS YOU NEEDFor the sin of saying a newly released camera isn’t a major upgrade or a good deal. Yeah.Maybe if you didnt steal 90% of your portfolio and constantly beg people for more snaps to steal, you would be able to quit simping for corporations and just post photos. Sadly any photos you can provide on demand are your moms dog on the porch or at the park. You are the other huskyfag. Huskyfag left, or started keeping his little m43 hating nikon shilling head down and posting things other than his unhealthy looking mutt in his overgrown backyard. Everyone was glad. I recommend you complete the script and do what he did. Stop getting mad at people for not liking the necessarily worsening direction of a stagnating industry. Shut up and stick to posting photos… of course, to keep that interesting, the photos must be of more than your families dogs and cats. If doghair could become a better poster without even leaving the farm, with the power of eggs, you can too. Good fucking luck.
>>4509439>I have to strawman because I can't believe how awesome you areAwe, how sweet>You recently got worked up into a tizzy because an anon said the SNOY a7r6 wasn’t a big enough resolution upgrade to be worth his $4500 and started repeatedly askingThat's not why. I agree the resolution bump was very modest and I would've expected more, and am expecting more for other similar models like an eventual Z7III/Z8II?>For the sin of saying a newly released camera isn’t a major upgrade or a good dealI agree with this though. I don't see it as a major upgrade or good deal, glad we agree!>Sadly any photos you can provide on demandI've offered to prove many photos, it seems like people don't want me to prove anything though, because they wont tell me which they want proof of.Do you know how many mp you need or want? Are you able to answer that question?Where can we see some of your photos on the board?
>>4509363> you can't answer a simple question about your own use cases?Because it is completely irrelevant. Unless you're actually just genuinely curious about the needs of some random nobody but that's just a bit weird to be honest.
>>4509445You’ve been called a photo thief so many times you could have shut everyone up by just posting pictures, any pictures you thought were good, instead of pestering people about exactly how many megapixels they think the a7r6 should have. Proving a photo is yours isn’t hard. Raws are non-destructively edited, keep their filesystem timestamps, and contain 100x more data than a jpeg. Jpegs can be converted to raw formats for a fake screenshot but they can’t pick up exponentially more data. AI can’t generate raws at all. It would take maybe two to four photos with raws to quiet all concerns. Guess all you have is the latest "photoshoot" from the porch of sleeping corgi studios.
Is it okay to shoot (or develop raw) in 2mp if I only plan to make small prints? Or should I go 6mp just in case?
>>4509506Your RAW is always (*not always) full resolution, these settings only affect your JPEG.*sometimes you can use different CROP modes that will for example crop 3:2 down into 1:1 or using an APS-C mode on full frame and sometimes those settings will affect your RAWs too, but should say so.
I enjoy and am used to Canon, love how they still make a lot of stuff in Japan, in fact I have never tried another brand and to be honest I am scared to. But I feel I cannot tolerate their hostility to third party lens manufacturers, which is stupid because chinese are going to make manual focus lenses for $200 anyway.Should I get a Sony, Fuji etc?
>>4509511thats not true. many cameras do in-camera binning that improves color and noise character at high ISOs. this can help high resolution FF look a lot better with underexposure. >>4509512the sony a7c series is the best companion to a real camera aka canonget the OG one because you have a nice camera anyways and its cheap and not too much to lose traveling
>>4509506You can do that, but cropping will absolutely not be an option at all at that size, so you better be really really good at getting that composition right at the time. Why go so small anyway? Storage space needed for any of those options is basically nothing. Just play it safe with 10mp imo.>>4509512Sony is really the only other option out there. I fully understand being pissed off with Canon about third party lenses, but that seems to be the Japanese way for whatever reason. Canon just feel like the Nintendo of the camera world at this point with how hostile they are to other companies making anything for their gear.
I really want to get a travel/minimal camera that can almost fit in my pocket, but I'm struggling. I was looking at Ricoh GRs but the prices were pretty shitty for what they are and then I looked at the Canon Powershots but their specs were shitty for their prices, so how would getting something like a used Sony A600 or A6400 with a pancake 28mm be? Are they any good as stills cameras? I can get a A600 for only $300USD and a pancake lens for about $200USD, which shits on a used Ricoh GRIII that sits at about $700USD.
>have wanted a Vivitar Series 1 forever>see regular listings for them but there's always something wrong with it because morons don't take care of their things>filled with fungus, scratched glass, "for parts", etc.>finally find one that looks okay, a version 2 70-210mm selling ridiculously cheap>check it out in person and it's in near perfect condition, everything works>clean>smooth focusing and zoom>aperture that goes to all stops>only problem is it's an MD mount, I don't have an MD adapter>buy it anyway and order an adapter>adapter arrives a week later>finally get to try out this lens, I'm excited as fuck>in the week spent sat on my desk the aperture has stopped working for no fucking reason>stopped all the way down, aperture ring does nothing>aperture lever opens it up but that's all>gonna cost 2.5x what I bought it for to get it repairedit's not fair ;-;
>>4509531Can't beat the weight and size of the Ricoh. Just keep in mind that they may get dust inside, so putting it into your pants pocket or so may be risky. I've always used a small bag for cary around but that adds size again. Lens is really sharp.
>>4509536They'd really get that dusty? That's not so great. I might have it in a small sling or a backpack then, but I'm still not sure on it. I've seen some other things about them like rough build quality, with the back button dial seemingly falling off.I'm still also leaning towards one of those Sony's since having an interchangable lens is also appealing if I wanted to use a bigger prime in the future.
>>4509359>>4509354thank you
I'm stuck on deciding between getting a z5ii for $1100 vs a a7cii for $1300. I like that the a7cii is smaller and higher mp than the z5ii but everything else seems better on the z5ii and it's cheaper? Any input here? Would be mostly for travel and taking family photos day to day and pets.
>>4509541The C stands for cucked. Just get a regular A7, still smaller than the Nikon but with a decent EVF, ergos, and controls.
>>4509546i can't get an a7iv in that price range and especially not an a7v
>>4509541The sony has better colors and autofocus, and is easier to have with you. However, the UI feels like magic lantern on a 5DII so you have to be extremely straight to tolerate it. The nikon has access to better pixel peeping lenses for less money than a sony GM, and the UI looks a bit nicer which is very important to homosexuals.
>>4509541Z5II is better if you plan to use MF with adapted / vintage lenses
>>4509541Sony had a tranny advertise playstations onceNikon… https://time.com/3668594/gay-black-fathers-kordale-and-kaleb-nikon/Choose wisely
>>4509541In that circumstance, unironically the Sony. AF on current Nikons are ass.>>4509546The A7CII has some better features than the A7IV (as it is newer) and I think it's priced a little cheaper, but the drawback is obviously the lack of EVF. Either one is a good choice and the anon could always go for a used A7IV since the A7V has probably driven down prices.
I got gear mogged today. Went out to the lake to try to take pictures of ducks. I found a convenient public lookout spot. I was using my small Olympus camera with a 150mm lens. And this guy was there with a giant Sony lens that looks like it could take pics of the craters in the moon.
>>4509363>>4509405I personally dont need any more than 10MP. Now what?
>>4509555Oh no no no no noIt has never been more over for micro four thirdcels
>>4509541>the a7cii is smallerInside it's irrelevant, outside you'll take a holster or put it in a backpack anyways, so size doesn't really matter that much imho. I'd prefer the Z for better grip and ergos. You held both cameras in your hand IRL?>MPDo you need more than 24 MP? probably not :-) >autofocusif you're a professional photographer for wildlife or sports or in extreme low-light conditions that may be a consideration, for your use case both cameras AF are great.>adapting vintage lenseswill be a lot better on the Z5>familyZ5 for sure, ergos are everything if one of your family members wants to take a picture of you.If you're still stuck think about the lenses and pick the system with the nicer background rendering.
>>4509557That's all, thank you for being honest and being able to answer a simple question, that puts you in the top 1% of anons here
>>4509555>giant Sony lens that looks like it could take pics of the craters in the moon.Funny part is he probably had the same level of zoom as you.
>>4509588>just wear a camera holster broOk boomer>just settle bro24mp with a weak/no AA filter is super moire prone in real life. The a7cii is better at handling aliasing irl. >just blow all your cash on worse all manual versions of chinese autofocus lenses bro vintage glass = vintage magnum photosGay. >what if your grandmas arthritis is too bad to hold a sony broGrandma cant even figure out a nikons retarded ergos and horrid iso/ev button placement. She’s use her phone. Also, sony now has the best pancake (viltrox 26mm f2.8), nikon lenses all have sterile rendering, and nikons color science is very unnatural, oversaturated, and green tinted. Sony colors are closer to canon colors with redder skin tones.
>>4509592>f5.6 zooms>stop down once>diffractionkek micro four thirdies>base iso 800 cameras anywhere under $1.5kkekkeroo
>>4509605Noooo it only diffracts if i stop down twice f-fool framer
>>4509592You know the f/ratio is not the full story right anon? You understand it's still half as much light and therefore a way worse photo quality right?
>>4509604I had and quickly sold the z5ii because of moire. Imagine random rainbow dots in hair, on pine trees, in grass, in shingle roofing, everywhere two lines meet at any angle. Its fucking horrible. The AA filter is too weak to do anything. Sony’s a7iv/a7cii sensor IS better at handling it, but the AA filter on it is visibly only horizontal and makes tall grass look kind of weird. The only real fix for both is to only use softer lenses. This is easier on sony. Most nikon lenses are way too corrected and render sony gaymaster style. Sony has a wider selection of normal glass. Sony also actually supports their entire DSLR/AF film SLR catalog. The whole thing. Nikon can’t adapt AF-D lenses with usablenative autofocus. Why can’t MILC AA filters be as good as they were on DSLRs? Is it the PDAF pixels?
>>4509541I'd buy the camera with the less insuffferable fanbase
> nikon d750 with 50 1.8g > have money for nikon z5 + a decent tele F-mount for portraiture & product & sports> OR have money for tamron sp 24-70 (f-mount) - mostly weather sealed driven decision, other zooms are either fucking pathetic, or have possible issues, even this one is a fucking gamble with af-motor and focus > take nikon z5 and invest in the future lens, make d750 my portrait-machine and action/sportsIs it a good idea to own both F-Z bayonets? Something like 20-70 weather sealed nikon Z for invents and 70+ for nikon F for sports/portrait/product
>>4509607>way worse photo qualityIn dim conditions, when ISO needs to be raised significantly, sure, but in daytime conditions at base ISO the difference is negligible.
>>4509609>Imagine random rainbow dots in hair, on pine trees, in grass, in shingle roofing, everywhere two lines meet at any angle. Its fucking horrible.Yes the rainbow sparkle is disturbing.Also, when you have sky visible through leaves, those little patches of sky become multicoloured like stained glass.Example from S9, 100% crop from below link in pic related.https://www.juzaphoto.com/galleria.php?l=it&t=5088539>Why can’t MILC AA filters be as good as they were on DSLRs? Is it the PDAF pixels?Considering we can buy good quality add-on OLPF, like from Kolari, and seeing how expensive they are, my suspicion is that they are degrading/removing filters simply for cost savingsThey save $50 per unit and if you want to add one on it will cost you $500.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9hvb4vKJnY
Is the 100d (SL1) a future classic? Recently got my hands on a couple of these cameras bundled with a couple of telephoto lenses that are worth on their own the same as I pad for the lots. Wondering if I should keep them or just flip them.I can easily see them becoming popular at some point being the smallest DSLR ever made.
>>4509609>I had and quickly sold the z5ii because of moire. Imagine random rainbow dots in hair, on pine trees, in grass, in shingle roofing, everywhere two lines meet at any angle. Its fucking horrible. The AA filter is too weak to do anything.is the zf any different from the z5ii? Cause i've literally never seen that with any of my photos on my zf but you got me curious if this is a z5ii issue
>>4509661Are you using a soft lens like the 40mm f2?
>>4509589So what was the point of asking that irrelevant question?
>>4509668What's the point of you asking this "irrelevant" question? What is the point of asking any question? I was curious to knowI would be more concerned about the people that get so evasive about a simple direct question
>>4509670What did you eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner yesterday anon?
>>4509604holy snoy cope
>>4509673I didn't have any breakfast (I don't usually eat breakfast), for lunch I had three Trader Joes rice crisps (the thin ones) with peanut butter, and Taco Bell for dinner (tried their new ranch avacado stacker and two potato soft tacos). Or did you want drinks too?
>>4509588>for your use case both cameras AF are great.Not really, the only cameras I have are Nikon and Sony, with Sony beating the shit out of my Nikon cameras when it comes to AF. I wouldn't reach for a Nikon if I was traveling or especially taking photos of pets, but it would be fine for anything that won't be moving at all.>Z5 for sure, ergos are everything if one of your family members wants to take a picture of you.Family will be stun locked no matter what camera you give them if it isn't a P&S with only one button. Shit, I think just about any normie probably would be too since the majority of people under 25 have never held any camera in their lives besides their phone which just does it all automatically.
>>4509698>panasonic has no mechanical shutter Absolutely disgusting.
Had a great time snapping photos around town with my shitty kit zoom; more fun than I normally have with my primes. With that in mind, who makes the best fast standard zoom for f-mount?
>>4509701Tamron has been my usual go-to.
>>4509700Are Viltrox any good though? I can get the current 28mm/4.5 for only $80 brand new and that is extremely and suspiciously cheap for a lens.
>>4509705I'm not sure what to expect from it desu. It's fixed aperture and I have to assume AF works fine, so what else would I need to be prepared for? Or is the image quality really poor?
>>4509708That's disappointing then, I'll wait for that other pancake to be announced then and see how it is. I was moments away from ordering that $80 one since it seemed like a good deal kek.
>>4509700>snoycels seethe at Nikon for their 26mm f/2.8 pancake and say they dont need one>chinese brand releases the same thing but bigger>AcKhuAlLy We HavE A PaNcaKE NoW SeE lmao
>>4509711>having a debate that never happened inside your headYou need to touch some grass bro. >ur just a snoyfag too reeeeeI use Nikon film cameras exclusively.
>>4509690but what if you did not have breakfast yesterday, how would have you felt?
just ordered a R52 since the CF pins in my 5D2 are bent again. how badly did I fuck up?
>>4509712Nobody tell this retard the Viltrox doesnt have a filter thread either, so by his own retarded logic it isnt a pancake either kek
I'm a normie but I have a decent understanding of how cameras work, I think my iPhone camera is pretty shitty and would like something compact and simple to use (fast focus) to take pictures of my trips with my gf, I don't mind if it's a bit expensive. Any advice?
>>4509723You must be mistaken, /p/ is for photography. All gear related questions belong on /g/.
>>4509720According to /p/, you made a huge mistake According to anyone else, great choice, enjoy and don't forget to share photos>>4509697Which Sony and Nikon bodies do you have?>>4509710Where are your photos? Why are you lying?>>4509714If I didn't have breakfast, I would have felt normal because I normally don't eat breakfastIf I normally at breakfast, and had skipped breakfast, I'd probably be feeling hungryIf I had skipped dinner, I'd be hungryWhat did you have for breakfast lunch and dinner?
>>4509734Stop being a faggot.
>>4509734>All gear related questions belong on /g//g/ is mostly ai talk these days anon wtf are you talking about
>>4509713>Snoy gaslightingNice try
>>4509592>level of zoomZoom is a ratio between the shortest and longest focal of a lens.You mean the same field of view or equivalent focal length.
>>4509734quit being a fag please
>>4509720You made a huge mistake if you’re not paid to shoot. Sorry. The R52 compromises stills image quality and affordability for framerates and video features that ONLY professionals benefit from. I mean it. Fill up all the SSDs and CF cards you want with 8k raw video and million fps stills blasting but at the end of the day, if you’re a hobbyist who paid $4k to have a 45mp ff that has barely any more dynamic range than a cheapo aps-c, that’s literally just what you are. You literally do not benefit. You only lose. You lose $4k specifically. Was the base R5 not good enough for you? Why?Even buying a hasselblad 907x would be more justifiable but you’d still look like an idiot. If you’re shooting and filming for work great choice. You will never have to make an excuse if something goes wrong. Just pass the acquisition price and ongoing storage cost to your clients. >>4509737This guy is a notorious shitposter who lives with his parents and bought a leica m10 monochrom to toy around with while walking his mothers pet corgi. He fervently defends any form of wasting money on photography because he is a trust fund child - literal child - and if he said the quiet part out loud he’d just be calling everyone poor for caring about responsible use of funds. >what, you earned your own money?>i dont fucking care you failure. maybe your parents should have been smarter in realestate.>-corgi gearfag’s subconscious
>>4509720Why was the original R5 not good enough?Why was the R6II not enough?You used to use a 5DII. If you’re a professional you’ve either been renting gear or shoot as a side hustle and technically aren’t a professional (per the strictest, formal, college essay approved use of the word). I’m curious what leads someone to jump from something less technically capable than a dirt cheap used nikon d610 to a video-centric stills-compromised hybrid marketed to sports photographers and professional journalists who serve major media outlets.
>>4509756i think his parents bought him the leica and everything else he had he was “flipping" like every other silver spoon gearfag across every other hobby (see: trogly’s guitar show, basically /p/ trust fundies in guitar form)he also constantly claims he’s a successful pro who worked at a camera store for 15 years but the only proof he posted was a collage of photos stolen from various instagrams and discords and a single receipt for a best buy employee buying a fujifilm, and all his on demand original work is photos of a dog/cat or photos of his marijuana. kek. he’s like a white black kid. >im a famous rapper>trust me>look at this gucci receipt>i have weed
Anyone have experience with domke bags? I'm looking for something small so I can take my camera and a couple extra lenses with me when I go backpacking.I like the style of the f-5xb but $90 is a *bit* more than I want to spend
>>4509662no i have the 85 1.8 and 50 1.2 and 24-70 2.8. I looked it up and the zf apparently does have an AA filter
>>4509756>>4509758>absolutely obsessed schizo>also samefagging, pretending to have a conversation with himselfYikes, get a life loser
A bear just now attacked my chickens! Here he is. Hes a teenager, but still very impressive. I chased him down and scolded him. >pic related
>>4509723i think for what you're looking for, a ricoh gr3 or gr4 is what you'd want. It's small, fits in your pocket, and takes very good photos. Only issue is it's a fixed focal length so no zooming if that's what you're looking for.
>>4509776Looks exactly like what I'm looking for, cheers.
>>4509758>he also constantly claims he’s a successful pro who worked at a camera store for 15I worked in shops for about a decade (labs too), and while I have shot for about 17 years now, and started doing paid stuff 16 years ago, I was only full time with photos from about '21 on> the only proof he postedI've posted myself, I've posted in the old exgf thread, I've posted in an old state thread, I've posted several client images, I've posted commission stuff related to working at the shop, receipts with employee discounts, screenshots of C1 showing several of the RAWs, also happy to share where most of the photo locations where in case anyone wants to get out there themselvesI've also asked for which specific photo people want proof of (because when I do the goalposts always shift), and no one ever seems to have an answer.> stolen from various instagrams With the exception of one of the landscape ones which was reposted by the city, these have either only ever been posted to my IG (or only posted here), thank you for the compliment about how much you like photos though
>>4509670>I would be more concerned about the people that get so evasive about a simple direct questionBecause it was as if you were trying to lead to something to prove a point but it actually had nothing to do with anything and its weird of you to autistically obsess over?
>>4509193>ohnononono...
>>4509737>>4509756>>4509757thanks fellas, I'm too old to feel buyers remorse so $4k down the shitter isn't really a concern. the main reason I bought it was for the AF upgrade, I want to take more photos like this of my cat, and also really liked the way 5 series just does everything. I own a EOS 5, 5D and now the R5 just continues the line. also idk what the fuck is the deal with DR, i've looked at the numbers its like 0.2 stops worse than the R5, still nearly 3 stops better than a 5D and shooting at anything other than 100 ISO is retarded.
>snoy schizo got banned again
>>4509775that is very cool anon.Go Away Bear
>>4509836Thank you, friend.
>>4509810I wonder what he does when he can't ragepost about Sony on here, it seems like it's his entire life at this point.
>>4509022What is rhe cheapest sharpest e mount or adaptable telephoto lens, >=600mm?
>>4509853nikon 800mm nothing is close
do I>upgrade from my Snoy A7II to A7R Vor>buy a standard zoom(or one of these 35-150mm ones I haven't decided yet)I have primes covering 24mm to 135 and a 150-600mm tele so it's probably time to actually upgrade the body, but I feel like convenience of a standard zoom would be neat, I hate changing lenses in the field the biggest reason I want a new body is that it's really hard to use the 150-600mm with my current one, I need both higher resolution for cropping(bought a Sigma like a retard so no teleconverters) and better low light performance so I can actually take photos at the times when the birds are out
>>4509884What would be a better alternative to the sigma?
Should I sell my Nikon ZF and buy the Leica Q2 instead? I know it's fixed lens but offers enough mp to crop to 35mm and even 50mm. I shoot in 28mm most of the time but the ZF is quite bulky. Q2 seems more compact and easy to bring around. The lens is probably(?) one of the best in that price range. The Q2 costs used around 3k€.
>>4509810Based jannies!
>>4509886Sony 200-600mmit's more expensive, but at least here both dropped in price a bunch, and you can buy Sony used for very close to what I paid for the Sigma new at launch. Unfortunately when I bought there was still some hope that maybe teleconverters would be coming, but Sigma made it clear it's not happening, probably for legal reasons.
>>4509896Still 2k euro used, god dayum
>>4509897huh, where do you live, Switzerland or something? Official Sony dealers here have them for ~1760 euro including 23% VAT, used they're closer to 1500.
>>4509897>>4509898actually, you can even get it for 1500 euro new:https://www.foto-erhardt.com/lenses/sony-e-lenses/sony-sel-200-600mm-f5-6-6-3-e-mount.htmlI don't live in Germany but bought from foto-erhardt before, so can recommend them if you're in Europe.
>>4509288I have read that the Z6 and Z5 AF is slower than the DSLRs but I didn't really care about that so much since I very rarely shoot anything that moves quickly and if I did I would probably just bring my D600. Most of what I do is scenery when I go backpacking. I take photos of the occasional animal or airplane but my 300mm F4 is screw drive so it's already slow. I think the AF will be less of an issue for me than for many, and I did not really like the Sony menu system when I tried an A7 years ago but it might have just been lack of familiarity.Would you happen to know if the A7C, with an adapter, would work well with my non-VR Nikon 24-70 F2.8? I have read that compatibility is iffy with adapters, there's no way I'll find Sony equivalent for a reasonable price before my next trip. I don't want to get rid of my D600 and stuff because I still find it perfectly adequate, I just want a smaller lighter camera that is still full frame and has good low light performance for my travel. FWIW that 24-70 is the lens I use 99% of the time and I got a screaming deal on it when I bought a bunch of stuff at an estate sale as a lot a few years ago. $1000 for the 24-70, a 50mm f1.4, 4 flashes, an F4, a D200 and a D70.
>>4509898>>4509899Not on sale here >2k new, >2k used wtf
I just wanted to say that, following your advice, I bought Z5 II instead of Z6 III as replacement for my failing D750. I just hope I did the right choice.It's my first mirrorless, however. I don't understand, for example, why viewfinder is so bright, much brighter than images themselves. Viewfinder brightness setting seems to do nothing on that, I'm probably missing something. But at least it "talks" well to my lenses, including Tamron one, via adapter.I'm confused however by online guides recommending 3D tracking or automatic AF selection - so far I was using small AF window and manually move it around when needed, only switching between AF-S and AF-C depending on whenever subject was moving or not. What I'm missing?
>>4509163>New LX100M3 (L10)>30% heavier>20% larger>50% more expensiveWhat went wrong?
Panasoynic really is a joke.
>>4509946>I don't understand, for example, why viewfinder is so bright, much brighter than images themselves. Viewfinder brightness setting seems to do nothing on that, I'm probably missing something.If you have [Viewfinder Brightness] set to [Auto] it will crank up brightness when you are in bright conditions.I never use [Auto] because it prevents judging exposure brightness from the exposure simulation.Viewfinder needs to be set to a reasonable value to allow for that. Check by taking a picture and displaying on both your main display (computer/tablet/whatever) and EVF at the same time. The exposure brightness should look the same.If the colors don't match well use [Viewfinder color balance] to adjust.
>>4509946Not sure for brightness, it should just have auto or manual with adjustmentFor AF on my Zf, I leave it on 3D tracking + subject detection + AF-C 100% of the time. I also have one button setup so when I press it, it will AF-S to a single point, and use that as needed. For MF, I use the small wide + subject detection, this let's you bias the subject detection to what's near that box rather than the whole frameI feel like modern mirrorless can mostly just live on AF-C all area, and DSLR era stuff like center point focus & recompose, or physically tracking a moving subject by moving the AF point (or zone) around isn't as necessary
>>4509957It's pretty much the same size as my M10 but I can put much smaller lenses on my M10
>>4509957They're just following the snoy strategy of making worser products
How tightly packed can a camera bag get before it's too tightly packedI just thrifted a 10" bag thinking I could fit my slr with a lens attached plus 2 lenses and a flash. With just the slr and 1 lens, there's still a good about of space. If I take out the divider, I can fit everything but it's a bit tight. If I buy thinner dividers and shove everything in, I'm afraid they'll just damage each other in the bag
>>4509963>the snoy strategy of making worser products>worserIgnoring your obvious indian-level ESL, what about the snoy a7R6 is worser [sic] than the previous version? There's a very slightly lower resolution screen, but just about everything else has improved, even if not drastically. In fact, they even make it slightly lighter while giving it a larger capacity battery, and with a negligible increase in size too. >>4509957>20% largerCorrection, it's pretty much 30% larger in volume as well, so a full 30% larger + heavier than the previous gen for... a flippy screen.
>>4509163New grift unlocked
>>4509974They can do whatever they want. Sony has no real competition. Everyone who has a problem with it already uses old shit.
Im going to japan this summer, is this a good deal for a a6400 +2 starter lens?
>>4509964you want a divider between each of the expensive things, they aren't going to get damaged in a way that actually matters but your shit will eventually get scuffed upmax load is whatever you can fit before it starts being a pain to take things out
>New to photography>Got a Pentax Kf almost a year ago>Doing night street photography>Realizing the limitations of the technology or possibly my knowledge, skill or lack of understanding regarding the limitations of the camera and lenses I haveIs there a way I can hope to get lower noise photos with my Pentax Kf in terms of just doing poin and shoot photography or is my only hope doing exposures?This photo was taken with a 50mm f1.4 on auto setting.Really what im asking is my problem a skill or knowledge issue or do I need a camera with a bigger/better sensor?I was wanting a Nikon ZF or Z5 iiAlso it feels like the 50mm f1.4 gets too much light and all the photos come out too soft in a lot of night conditions is this a skill issue?Am I expecting too much out of the camera and lenses I have?
>>4509985skill issue>put it in manual mode>put the camera on a tripod/post/trashcan>set the ISO to 100>set the f stop to f5.6>make the exposure longer until the light meter reads -1 (it's nighttime, shits supposed to be dark)that's it, no more noise
>>4509986Okay so pretty much all cameras to get no noise on night photos are going to need a tripod and exposure?My problem would be the same even with a better night Camera like a Nikon Z5 ii or Nikon Zf?Also does anyone have a Tripod Recc for a Pentax kf?
>>4509987yes, it would look like shit on a hasselblad with your current settings. k&f make ok tripods, their ball heads are fine but really just go with whatever chink manufacture is currently having a sale.>aluminium tripods that are cheap are shit>anything on amazon is shit>carbon fiber "travel tripods" are the current new thing so are generally functional past the $100 mark>video heads under $1000 are fucking worthless don't even bother
>>4509985I've never taken a picture in fog like that before (it looks like it makes the noise more noticeable), but with f/1.4 you should be okay to hand shoot in street light conditionsIf you are shooting raw, remember to expose for the highlights because it's much easier to recover the dark parts vs toning down a saturated section (impossible)Underexposing your shots will also lead to the camera using a better ISOBesides that (or getting a tripod) the best you can do is get a lens/body with image stabilization and shoot handheld at something like 1/10 shutter
>>4509163>What went wrong?more jewish trickery
>>4509985>Is there a way I can hope to get lower noise photosOn a basic level, noise comes from a lack of exposure, so if you want less noise, you need more exposureBetter cameras (and lenses), can help a little, but a basic camera + tripod + low iso will always be able to outperform handheld with great camera for static scenes
>>4509022Pentax KP or Pentax K-1 Mk ii? Asking for a friend.
>>4509977Go on ebay and filter for sold. Then you can see what they typically go for.
>>4509985Noise mostly comes from sensor size. A 100mp hasselblad resized to match your kf would have 1/4 as much noise because both larger sensors and shrinking images reduce noise. It would also have 8 stop IBIS, allowing multi second exposures without a tripod. Just don’t buy a nikon zf. It’s barely any better than a nikon D750. Nikon overrates their IBIS. It’s still the same as the ancient 24-120 F4 VR lenses stabilization. And you’re clueless so you’d have no idea you got scammed. Also do not buy a tripod. Buy a collapsible monopod that you feel comfortable using as a walking stick so you’ll actually use it and learn how to hold still. Tripods in shit countries get you robbed, and in good countries they get you arrested for violating peoples privacy rights with unlicensed professional photography.
>>4510049K-3 I or II. But if it's actually ruled out, K-1 II.I really like the KP but between its inflated price and a trip to the repair shop to get the rear LCD's flex cable fixed I basically spent K-1 money on mine and it's not worth that much.
>>4509985Anon is right. You’re obviously not going to benefit from nikon mirrorless at all. You still shoot on auto mode. If you must upgrade to stay off the tripods, AFTER you figure out what aperture priority, exposure compensation, and manual mode do and don’t need a tripod to shoot at slower speeds, don’t waste your money on a 3rd rate mirrorless camera that doesnt really do anything new that isnt related to professional video or sports/wildlife/weddingscammer specific AF functions. Just use a nicer DSLR until you can afford something truly good like a sony a7cii or fuji x100vi. All DSLR and film era lenses are softer and smearier wide open. You have to stop down a bit if you don’t want this.All pentax IBIS is 4.5 stops on paper and 1-2 stops in the real world and almost nothing over 85mm. This means you should have no difficulty shooting at 1/15th with a 50mm lense. Nikon lens IS is more effective and reaches its full four stop rating, so with a much cheaper DSLR upgrade pictured (notice mirrorless isnt even smaller) you could shoot at 24mm 1s (or more, some people dont even need stabilization for 24mp 24mm 1s) all the way to 120mm 1/6s. A nikon DSLR can also use excellent fast lenses with IS. the tamron 85mm f1.8 and 35mm f1.8 VC for nikon F both have highly effective stabilization and are sharper wide open than the average lens. You really don’t need the newest professional mirrorless.
>>4510051>Noise mostly comes from sensor size.big lol
>>4510054Noise does in fact come from sensor size. Users of a proper raw processor like capture one and real world cameras will be more familiar with this than users of dpreviews test shot tool.
>>4510057>Noise does in fact come from sensor size.Interesting, same sensor, and yet the noise is different?If the sensor is the same, why is the noise different? Happy to share receipts of how long I've used LR/C1/PS
>>4509985carrying a tripod is the most immediate end to your problems. spending thousands of dollars on a new body and lens will get you only three stops more exposure; a tripod will get you ten, twenty, how many do you want?
>>4509977Is that a Japanese Sony? You can't change the language unless you hack it.
>>4510067>carrying a tripod>yo lemme see that. I aint gonna hurt ya. Ya’ll hear me? No self defense here. Me n my friends just wanna borrow it. Lemme see. >setting up a tripod>Excuse me sir, but we don’t allow professional photography on our property/in the park without permission. Please leave. There are children here.
>>4510072How many times has these situations happened to you?
>>4510062>dpreview screenshotSpend less time taking these and more time applying for a job, thx
>>4510083>I can't engage with what he says because I know he's right>I'll tell him to get a job!Good one
>>4510088>seethingyes dear your phone is just as good as a nikon d850 because you took a screenshit of iso 1 million on dpreviewthe jobs center is just down the street. maybe if you get a cool job you can take photos of it. bye!
>>4510089>double downNice, hopefully one day you can learn about noise
>>4510072a couple touristy caves i have visited had banned tripods, monopods selfie sticks ect, so they encourage you to be a turbogearfag-> foolframe with ibis + fast uwa lens with ois perhaps ?
>>4510090>b-but i took a screenshot on dpreview and-Job, now. >>4510091Even if you use a tripod your beginner camera will never perform as well a real one. People that gear cope are just disruptive and selfish. They block paths, “reserve” space at vantage points with their kit, and make people uncomfortable because it is a widely known fact that creeps buy cheap ILCs at pawn shops to zoom in on random women and even underage girls and lie saying they’re a professional landscape photographer when confronted. If you want a higher quality photo just use a higher quality camera. If quality does not matter to you, what you can achieve with basic skills and your shitty beginners camera is good enough.
>>4510092>If you want a higher quality photo just use a higher quality camera.What do your photos look like?
>>4510094Like a 32k giga definition portrait of your dad telling you to get a job. Tootles, nophoto!
>>4510092aps-c at iso 100 + tripod >>>>>> ff iso3200 (static scene of course) simple as
>>4510050>>4510070I hope its easy to hack then, its like I get two free lens
>>4510099>if i make up a scenario where my beginner camera is better…You’re still a nophotoEveryone here already knows how to shoot ISO 64 handheld with FF, even at f/16. It’s called skills. Maybe a beginner forum like mu-43 or dpreview would be more your speed?
Wait, do /gear/fags REALLY need tripods to shoot in the dark?You guys can’t just hold the camera still when you take the picture? What do you have, some ancient canon dslr with no IS lens that still "needs" bracketed HDR for everything? Is it 2008 in here?Wow, this thread really is a bunch of dunning kruger beginners from thirdworldistan.
>>4509896Except the tc what are the other downsides?Sony lens 2k euro ant 2xtc is 600euro here newAny other alternatives? Even vintage lenses but with good iq and reach.What about tamron 150 500.
>>4510104Most people here are skinny virgins aka micro-four-turd shooters.
Maybe a bit of a sidenote, but how fucking loaded is that Cam Mackey guy?I was looking at the new Blazar Talon videos and watched his video and it's just everything he has is just expensive shit and tons of it. He makes good points about a lot of stuff, but the adhd editing, scene cuts in the middle of tangents to cut to different tangents because "Haha I have adhd!" is pretty annoying.How successful is that dude from his video work?Also, I hope to fuck Blazar make a z mount Talon with blue flares. I'll get all three focal lengths if they do.
>>4510106there is also a new cheaper Viltrox 2x teleconverter that does seem to work with some Sigma lenses but you'd have to look for people using it specifically with the 150-600 and see if it works, I think it had some issues in the beginning if you think 600mm would be enough just get the Sigma usedpersonally I wouldn't go for the 150-500 unless it's a lot cheaper and you have high res body that can crop inthere's also a bunch of older glass you can adapt but that's a whole other can of worms, and generally they weren't that much cheaper to justify the hassle when I was looking, but that will vary depending on where you live
>>4510110>but how fucking loaded is that Cam Mackey guy?I've been following him since his YouTube started, he used to do paid video work with an XT3 lolHe did mostly local western wear type brands early on, and then his YouTube got big enough to support himself insteadA decent chunk of the gear you see is loaners from vendors, and the stuff he owns isn't that much considering how long he's been shootingHe might get vendor discounts too>>4510099It's funny considering the most successful to make it out of p uses a tripod virtually all the time, in daylight nonetheless
>>4510116He sure has worked his way up from not much. I get companies loan him stuff for promotion etc. and I'm sure a lot of his gear has been accumulated over years, but I'm still just surprised every time I watch one of his videos how new and expensive everything he has is. Not just camera gear, but everything around him.I'm not dissing him, I'm just more surprised somebody in that line of work can do THAT well for himself when it looks like most of the stuff he does is with a fairly tight crew with a lot of run and gun shooting.
>>4510116He also uses LF film and mogs all digishitters with less than a D850 by default, and only takes photos in nowheresville
>>4510116>someone with a large format camera used a tripod in the middle of a field. my canon rebel wins the console war!Holy unemploymentYou gotta get a job this isn’t healthy
>>4510119>D850Half frame film mogs a D850 by default because some film stocks can produce colours that look a bit like real life. No Nikon DSLR can replicate this.
>>4510109https://www.thephoblographer.com/2016/11/03/olympus-omd-em1-mk-ii-can-handheld-15-seconds-get-clean-exposures/
>>4510112Sony 200 600 2000euroSigma 150 600 1320euroTamron 150 500 1162euroThere is also ttartisans 500, manual no ibis. iq is not that great but is 300 euros.I want long reach to take moon and sun photos and then wildlife. I ll pass until that night that i get drunk and i say fuck it, and press order
>>4510104Try taking milky way pics or 30sec exposures of car lights handheld nigger
>>4510049https://www.ebay.com/itm/327165856253Here's a K1 with a bunch of decent lenses, should be KP priced if you don't include them. 35mm FA 2.0 ($120-150), Macro 100mm f2.8 ($150), 18-35mm ($80), Tokina 20-35mm ($100), and Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 ($100-120).KP is kind of overrated, not sure why they're still $6-700. Honestly K1 is okay; APSC is Pentax's forte. >>4510104A tripod is $20-30 lol I paid $20 for my Slik SBH-100>>4510052I paid $225 for my K3-I with a 28-75mm Tamron; great camera with pleasing grain and metering, would also recommend a K70 if you find one <$400. k70 + 17-50mm tamron f2.8>>4510051>in good countries they get you arrestedlmao no one gives a nearly of a fuck as you think they do and those places want you sticking to a cell phone (even a p&s from 2010 is considered the same as a ff dslr with a big lens to them)
>>4510147yep, I'd get the Sigma at that pricedo NOT buy the ttartisans one if you want to ever shoot wildlife
I have in terms of <150mm zoom Pentax Lenses(2) Tamron A09 28-75mm f2.8s(1) Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (APSC)(1) Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 (1) Quantaray 28-90mm f3.5-5.6(1) Pentax-FA 28-70mm f4(1) Pentax-FA 28-90mm f4-5.6Should I pick up a Pentax D-FA 28-105mm f3.5-5.6 WR? Its the kit lens for the K1 (which I own) and I don't have anything better than the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 for a zoom. $180-200 seems to be the very cheapest I see them go for. Side note, I should probably get rid of some of those lenses lol.
>>4510163You should learn to save and buy one decent thing instead of a load of junk things
>>4510167trying different lenses is part of the hobby for me and i paid <$40 for most of them or got them with another camera; this is not my primary hobby the $30,000 in cars i spent in the last year in >>4510152 is im probably gonna keep the 35-105mm and the 17-50mm f2.8 zoom (widest angle in my collection); maybe the quantaray since it was $20 and i like how it renders images
>>4510163Get an SMC Pentax-M 35-70mm F2.8-3.5. It’s the highest-rated manual zoom on Pentax Forums. I’m thinking of getting one for my Pentax film SLR, not sure if it’s worth it but they’re also affordable.
>>4509022>mirrorless>perfect
>>4510174>M series lens on digital / cripple mount bodies Meh, not having wide open metering getspretty annoying. Too bad the lens doesn't have an A version.
>>4510178Yeah agreed after shooting with a few manual aperture primes (35mm f3.5 Pentax SMC + 55mm f1.8 Super Takumar). I forgot I have a Pentax-F 35-70mm f3.5; its a pretty damn good lens considering its the size of a prime collapsed down. I'll probably keep this too because its also worthless ($20-30 used) but versatile and the size of a prime. Guess I'm gonna let go of the 2 28-75mm Tamrons + 28-70mm f4 (got this with a K10D) + 28-90mm f4-5.6 (got this with a ZX-7)Should also let go of my K10D + K200D; dislike those as far as CCDs and never use them. K200D has 130k+ shutter counts so probably not gonna sell easily. K10D can't focus for shit I think it has the mirror alignment issue. My fav CCDs are my Konica Minoltas (5D + 7D) and Sony A390. I break out the Pentaxes when I want low light or best IQ.
>>4510184Forgot I took that and this with the 35-70mm, first pic
Looking for a small bag for my R7 plus a few small sigma primes, ideally made out of natural fiber e.g. cotton canvas. Any recs?
I was going to buy a Sony a6400 but I saw this on z50 sale, thoughts bro?
>>4510196$450 for the Z50 + Kit Lens is killer. I don't even think the $300 jump for the Z50ii is worth it ($750). The problem with the a6400 is that a real deal FF Snoy isn't much more used. You can pick up a a7iii for $7-800 locally and even a a7c which is /p/'s favorite camera from all the shilling runs you around $1000. But I do like how compact the Z50 + kit lens is and I think the kit lens is a lot better than what comes on equivalent Sony APSC cameras (16-50 OSS). Would make for a sick little travel/edc camera that fits in your sweatshirt pocket. I know last year Nikon was blowing them out at $400 refurb. Look for one used too. The only thing is Nikon Z DX APSC lens selection kinda sucks.
>>4510196You'd be happier with a Z50II
>>4510196The autofocus literally does not work, most DX nikon lenses are entirely plastic, and it has the most unnatural janky green tinted color science on earth. You would be better off with a pentax. It’s that bad. If you must crop cope the canon r10 and r7 are the blobs to cop, the fuji xe5 and xm5 are the first fujis to have autofocus worth relying on, and sony is acceptable if you can’t afford a fuji and have a capture one license.
>>4510196What do you want it for?
>>4510196Nikon mirrorless is terrible. Go fuji or canon.
>>4510200anon again this is /p/ - pentax we love our pentaxes saying you'd be better off with a pentax isnt a insult
>>4510202>>4510200What cameras do you guys use?
>>4510198thanks bro I am convinced this would be a good starter camera. I dont think I'll be looking for more lens soon but if I do, I might sell this and get a a6400 + 18-50mm sigma, i heard that's the magnum opus of APS-C lenses >>4510199wtf thats like double the price for kit+lens>>4510200yeah I heard the autofocus was not as good compared to something like the a6400, il need to look into some comparisons >>4510201nothing professional, just something to take with my on my trips to Europe and Japan
>>4510212The a6400 would be more likely to jump from your carryon to your shoulder strap or even pocket. Viltrox is releasing a 26mm f2.8 pancake lens with an aperture ring soon. Nikom blobs are not very pleasant to use. The menu has fewer words and more pictures, but the button layout with the ISO and E/C buttons crammed in by the shutter is terrible and leads to them being unused and something else being wasted on ISO control. Canon DSLRs really executed that concept better.
>>4510212The mirrorless "standard" for AF now is +97% accuracy when using all area AF and AF-C, so people are a lot more critical on AF performance. A Z50 can focus perfectly fine if your standard is less than that, or able to simply use other AF settings. However, one of the limitations of the Z50 is that eye AF is only enabled with all area AF.One practical example here:https://youtu.be/yltsAUtH_jg?t=504Where you can see it follow a child running very well, and mostly keeps up with a running dog, but gives up at a certain point. The guy also did a 2 year follow-up, highlighting one of the reasons early Nikon AF gets such a bad rap, where it can stick to a bright background instead of a darker foreground subject. He also provides more good AF examples too, including running horses.https://youtu.be/gPJ7o7F6z6U?t=37This issue is easily resolved by switching AF modes or just refocusing. Since this video, there has also been a further AF performance update as well. This video has practical AF examples for lowlight with kit lens on stock firmware:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTU4pFA5YF0Ultimately up to you but take everything here without any sources or evidence with a grain of salt.
>>4510230Nikon autofocus is bad because the actual speed and accuracy are bad and all but the z8 and z9 are forced into stop down autofocus which severely hampers AF speed and tracking functionality in low light, so the AF only technically works (it will lock focus in af-s, eventually) since the software is starved for good contrast and has to rely on phase detect pixels. Nikon improved their second gen AF motors by over 20x to catch up to sony and canon, who only improved theirs by a claimed 5x. I’m sure nikon’s fourth generation cameras will finally enable automatic aperture opening during AF like the other three brands did last decade, and only after that release will they add the firmware feature to the third gen (zf, z5ii, etc). But for now it’s just cripple hammering and pretending people who don’t need the z8 don’t need… the same AF chops of the second cheapest FF canon. Which is what you’re doing right now. Ffs, if a camera costs over $1000 the AF better outdo a sony a7iii. It’s not worth coping over. Nikon cripple hammers autofocus as badly as canon cripple hammers batteries and IBIS.
>>4510212i was actually thinking of the z30 in >>4510198 which is again $400 refurb i'd go with thatthe autofocus is a little snappier too, it felt nice slipping it into my sweater/cargo pants pocket you pay anymore and you can just pick up a used full frame mirrorless like a nikon z6ii or sony a7iii or canon r8 for $800 or so, again why i really dislike the a6400 for its pricepoint >>4510223>nikon blobs are not pleasant to usea6400 only has one scroll dial and the iso/ec buttons being near the shutter is the same as most brandsmore importantly it has a big fat grip that you'll appreciate if you have hands bigger than a 5ft japanese woman and makes it a lot nicer to use z30/z50 kit lens collapses damn near flush to the body which is an important consideration>>4510235 z30 is $400 refurb, i think its the best apsc for that budget. nikon refurbs are nearly new too
>>4510236You only need one scroll dial (technically two). Aperture rings, m8.
>>4510235>actual speed and accuracy are badThat's neat, did you forget to attach your examples?So far we have examples of it working reasonably well, and claims of it not. Very interesting that you felt the effort to write paragraphs about how bad it is, instead of simply showing us with a simple youtube link. Almost makes it seem like you're talking out of your ass.What cameras do you use again?
>>4510235>Ffs, if a camera costs over $1000Good thing we're talking about a $400-500 camera
>>4510242A $400-500 camera that isnt exactly outdoing a used sony a6400 desu. Its sad how many things get away with being unchanged or subpar for their era just because of the sheer number of boomers that refuse to consider used equipment an alternative
>>4510246At least OP will own a camera, that's one more than you have lol
>>4510246a used sony a6400 is a $6-800 camerahttps://www.ebay.com/itm/287336011816this is the cheapest one sold in america that isn't a scam because used sony cameras attract third world scammers like bees to honey. next cheapest is $700. do you think a a6400 is $300 better than a z30/z50? why not just buy a a7iii for $900 (next cheapest on ebay)? the biggest argument against apsc sonys is the existence of ff sonys
>>4510253>he shops on ebay>he sets prices off the ebay search of the daySpeaking of getting ripped off. Yeah, you’re paying for a resellers profit margin and ebay fees that exceed 13%, plus however much scummy japanese resellers already inflated the price in that circlejerk market.eBay is for very impatient impulsive buyers to lose money and people who are willing to wait and check it several times a day for something fairly priced (to get it before a reseller does). Imagine going off the circlejerk that still thinks a 1st gen ef 24-105 f4 is worth more than $250.I buy all my camera gear locally. No shipping, no tax, and after having ebay payouts explained every other delusional seller is willing to come down by 20%. The only people really benefiting from ebay anymore are people who are cunning and immoral enough to pull a lost package/damaged item scam over a seller and never use ebay again.
>>4510236Why would they put the mode dial in that spot and then put the control dial on the corner like that? The mode dials position would be better for a control dial.
>>4510260you are trying to draw blood from a stonei rarely find deals locally only retards trying to list stuff for ebay pricing without paying ebay fees the $450 one would be junk/c condition (dropped multiple times) the $500 is a hour away by car and has no lens no charger nothing (that's if its real or he doesn't reply)a6000 is a $400 camera all day long though. im in a major city (nyc) too>japanese sellersi specifically only look for us based sellers with SOME feedback and pictures that dont look like obviously stock photos. its actually surprisingly difficult to buy a sony used...no idea why but the cameras attract scamming nigerians/indonesians who want to "ship" it to you on facebook marketplace/craigslist and cannot do a local meetupimporting from japan = sony region lock (cannot change to english japanese only) + 20% tariffs and shipping nikon refurbs are a good deal sometimes...that's a camera that likely has <100 shutter count and a warranty/return policy.
>>4510275>stuff is overpriced even locally>I’m in NYCYour peril is unique to your place of residence. Sorry for your misfortune. You will simply have to cope and buy something less than ideal, like a micro four thirds. The z50 and z30 are really not that much better than a properly used 20mp olympus but olympus has nicer format specific lenses and IBIS. I can’t even tell aps-c and mft apart unless the aps-c is nice like a canon r7 or fuji xe5 or the mft is using a lens with wonky rendering like a zoom or the olympus 60mm macro.
>>4510277>stuff is overpriced even locally>20 million large metro area with places like adorama and b&h having retail locations that's not how markets actually work, here i'll look in tampa florida (250mi radius) just for you again, you're drawing blood from a stone and strike me like the type of person to thrift used underwear instead of buying new
>>4510280>its le… economicsIf you can’t talk any of these scammy sellers down it sucks for you, but getting a fair price out of someone selling their hobbies to pay bills without giving up their leased 2026 honda can be hard to negotiate with so I’ll be fair even though I never had a problem with getting a non-scam price eventually. You should take a serious look at micro four thirds.
>>4510282i just don't think you have any actual experience with what you're talking aboutthat simple.
>>4510275>>4510280>scalped by indians>language region lock>poopoo nasty colours & magenta tint>crop sensorAt that point why even bother? Just get something good. Seems like such an uphill battle for a lame reward.
>>4510284Or maybe I actually engage with sellers instead of accepting whatever delusional price they type inThe worst are the ones who will come down 20% but won’t give up their package “deal”. But if you keep trying you will get what you want within a month. Also, please seriously consider micro four thirds.
>>4510286>Also, please seriously consider micro four thirds.Which m43 body for a comparable price would you recommend?
>>4510288People are daring to demand $500 for the EM1II and EM5III. But if you are willing to be an alpha male and refuse to pay more than $400, you will get one for a fair price eventually.
>>4510295Interesting
So I got a 75-300 m4/3 lens for birding. What's a good shorter lens for street photography?
>>4510306>a6400, a camera that sony hobbyists and indians think is worth $800vs>some old $150 dslrLmao.
>>4510311lumix 25mm f/1.7 is ok but the autofocus is pretty crap by mirrorless standards. Otherwise either of the olympus 17mm's are good. If u want a zoom just get the olympus ez 14-42 cus u can find them for cheap
>>4510316>5D2Idk if I could handle the AF perfromancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-B-UuEWWcYikes
>>4510319only +/- 2 stops on the exposure meter?is that normal on DSLR?
>>4510316>>4510306>dpreview screenshotsDownload raws. They underexpose their m43s. Its a crooked website. The lights they use are adjustable for tint, temp, and brightness and it never appears in exif if they are playing tricks. They also game apparent sharpness and color with lens selection. If you want to know how cameras perform get a job and use them.
>>4510319>Idk if I could handle the AF perfromanceLol, its not like you have to worry about pleasing clients, lil bro.
>>4510326>Download raws. They underexpose their m43s. Its a crooked websiteDid you forget to download them yourself so you can make a better example?
>>4510306>>4510316lmao, every fucking thread someone posts the same shit.>be me>shoot at 100 ISO>maybe go to 800 for fast motion under shit lighting>never have to worry about noise>get plenty of rest at night>>4510324yeah +/-3 or 4 stops compensation wasn't really a thing until the last DSLRs, I do have a couple of film cameras that can do +/- 3 so not sure why they removed it for such a long period.
>>4510330Funny how ISO suddenly doesnt matter once snoyboys get BTFO'd kek
>>4510332I shoot canon FF tho, 6400 ISO looks like aids no matter the brand, sensor size or age of the system
>>4510333Skill issue. If your photos look crap, stop blaming the tools. Pretty simple.
>>4510331panasonic hasn't released a brick shaped 4/3 body for nearly a decade, that's why everyone is so hyped..Also the EVFs in those old models were the crappy sequential color LCD. L10 has a decent OLED.I hope they release L10 with a m4/3 mount.
Genuinely, what is the point of m43 cameras when you can just get an aps-c camera for pretty much the same dosh. And the camera in your phone is insane these days too (and will only keep getting better)And if you're already going for an aps-c camera, you may as well just get a used full frame. Mirrorless bodies are so fucking small these days that size isn't really a matter anymore. You can get lightweight lenses too.What's the point of m43 when it just seems like you're making huge compromises on everything compared to what you can get at a similar price?>But the best camera is the one you have on youYes, but why compromise when you have the option for something better at the same size/weight and price? And if it's aesthetics you care about then other companies offer that too with larger sensors.The whole point of getting a dedicated camera is you want it to be better than your phone camera. You need to aim higher and higher for a camera like that with how fast and good phone cameras are getting.
>>4510336>I hope they release L10 with a m4/3 mount.Em5 mark whatever with the folding zoom kit lens
So my gf has subtely hinted that she would like to start photography with a semi-professional camera. As her birthday is coming up, I have roughly 1200€/$ to spend on a rather competent camera. As I am a total gear noob, I am looking for advice.She has hinted at liking the Fujifilm XT30III or the Sony Alpha 6400. However, my endeavours of finding out which one she prefers have been unsuccessful, as far as I can tell she doesn't really have a favourite and doesn't really know about the technical differences between these cameras. Neither do I - so can you experts on the matter shed some light on which one of these cameras is better for amateurish photography (wedding photos, food/recipe photography/vlogs, artsy shit with coloured plastic in front of the flash, shutter speed shenanigans)? Should I get a kit package or a certain lens for that?If you have alternative options on what I should get her, I would be absolutely grateful as well.
>>4510392To be honest, I don't think you can really go wrong with either of these, theyre both good options for different reasons. The sony has faster autofocus and can use the same lenses as the higher end professional full frame sony models like the a7 series. The fuji is definitely more consumer oriented than professional. There aren't really any 'professional' cameras in Fuji's X system, but it does have some fun film simulation presets and women tend to like them a lot. Its definitely more of a heart than brains sorta thing. Fujis professional system (GFX) uses a different lens mount so any lenses you get for the xt30iii wont work on that. Idk man I would talk to her, if she already wants you to get it for her it's not gunna be that much of a surprise so maybe watch some videos about it together and see what she thinks?
>>4510392what about the internal stabillizer? I heard both don't have one and this could be bad?
repoast from /medium/Got a Rolleicord Vb in perfect condition for $640 usd. Is that a ripoff? It was at my local camera store and I didn't want to gamble on eBay. This is the first time I bought a TLR and wanted to go for the best entry-level option, which seemed to be the Rolleicord Va/b.
>>4510392Ignore youtubers. Anything less than full frame is a waste of timeBuy a canon R8 or a sony a7c.
>>4510394>full frame>professionalThis has never been the case except in marketing material. FF is the standard for photography. There are technically crop sensor cameras (especially in the video market) that are officially more professional than a hobbyist oriented full frame like an a7c. Hobbyists need quality, reliability and portability. Professionals need ecosystems, workflows, and guarantees.