One week - editionprevious >>16971760
Someone post it
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>>16975252not my proudest fap.
>>16975245Something that is astounding: Starship has no logo. Even falcon 1 had a logo
Which one she choosing sfg?
>>16975257the more egregious issue is no massive USA / flag on the side.
>>16975261I would find that quite gawdy
>>16975258pot calling the kettle black.
He thought he cooked with that one
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>>16975260what's the purpose of the veins
>>169752663d printed. this isn't your grandpappy's ispgrid
>>16975266tile active cooling
>>16975266proompter was thinking of veiny black cocks and the AI picked up on it
>>16975260whiteshipbros how are we meant to compete with that?!!?!
>>16975266>>16975269yeah, proompter follows amerimutts law
https://youtu.be/LuFdNhKZHgAGrok agrees, quantized inertia is the only logically consistent theoretical framework for our universe.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2054362212303811065>ZQ-2E Y5 was spotted vertical at JSLC. The launch date has been postponed for 1 day. Window now begins at 14 May 1052 BJT [May 13 10:52 PM EST]
What the actual fuck he actually winning at lifeBased isacc arthur makes sfg seethe and wins at life
>>16975300>him>JMG>Astrum>AntonWhich is the most irritating?
>>16975302Isacc is based cringekinoNever saw any jmg, anton is just too dry and weird but not annoyingNow asstrum makes me sethee he always gets me.with the clickbait like>jwst found godAnd then its some bullshit
if v3 doesn't work I will drive down to starbase and hold up a sign in protest
>Flight 12 Max-Q at T+45 secondsEven an Atlas V 551 usually doesn't hit Max-Q until a minute into flight, with the soonest happening at about T+48 seconds. That thing's going to scream off the pad.
>>16975259Do all futanari’s wear calvin klein?
>>16975320Just for reference i took a look, starship flight 11 was only going about 700 km/h at T+ 45 seconds.
Flight 12 got delayed because Elon(Felon) is going to to eat cats and dog with his friend Donald Duck.
>>16975325is he in China with Drumph? I wish he wouldn't fly so much.
>>16975325Tim Apple to join them
>>16975326yeah its trump, elon, and several other billionaires. they're trying to do a big trade deal.
>>16975328Elon and four other dudes worth one billion each.
L2 is saying that Elon's new transport barge has been loaded with a booster and is heading towards Panama.
>>16975325Are you serious?
>>16975336No dumbass they wont eat cats he messing with you
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/2054387041475903829?s=20>Starship V3’s cryogenic recirculation is a critical new capability introduced with this new version of Starship and is likely a practical application of NASA’s foundational research while translating ZBO concepts and recirculation feed systems into flight hardware
>elon will be back in the US next weekthere it is, starship NET next week
Baby, will you vaccuum my header feed lines and activate my improved RCS system?
I’m curious what the new raptor startup method mentioned on their site is, is it merely a change in sequencing or have they changed the igniters/pumps physically?
>>16975344>have they changed the igniters/pumps physically?Yeah
>>16975344They will be using fireworks to set off every launch in the 50 days before and after Independence Day in honor of America’s 250th anniversary.
>>16975326He traveled by rocket
>>16975343>tfw no gf willing to vacuum my header feed line
>>16975245The google talks with SpaceX is to secure Starship launches early on. Because Google knows Starship will be very active and very busy soon as it makes it to commercial launch. Starlinks will consume 90%(10% reserved for other companies to utilize the capacity) of the launches, and then further AI computers based on Starlink platforms.
>>16975360starlinks are only 90% of the launches if spacex doesnt build more launch sites. WE NEED MORE LAUNCH SITES ELON.
Good morning. I am rich now. (thanks elon)
Just gave Project Hail Mary a watch, and to my surprise, I enjoyed it. Much more than The Martian.Give it a try, if you're still on the fence about it. It's a fun movie.
>>16975374I couldn't get past the cringe. Had to stop after 15 minutes.
When will an /sfg/ human make a short space movie with AI?
>>16975381bro don't summon bike anon
Cancel Starship
>>16975376Oh, if you couldn't handle that, you need to expose yourself to more higher level cringe to gain immunity.
>>16975376Just watch ecchi anime for a week, you’ll gain immunity.
>>16975383Bike anon, make an AIslop of rocky from hail mary rolling in his ball next to a woman on a bike.
>>16975259I've jerked off to this several times.
>>16975361we need more pylons
>>16975396Spawn more overlords
wikipedia says we left the information age a few years ago and are now in the the imagination age>The Imagination Age is a period where creativity and imagination are the primary engines of economic valuehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagination_Agewhat happened to space age 2.0? we lost to the ai chuds.
>>16975376Cringe is a personal skill issue.
>>16975408>wokepediayikes
>>16975408late-stage service economy cope
>>16975408>The Covid19 pandemic (which started in late 2019-2020) marked the rise of the Imagination Age, since everything changed.This article is articulated with a 14 year old middle schooler’s writing level
>>16975418What does grokipedia say about this? I only trust the brown Man's encyclopedia.
https://x.com/RaulTorresPLD/status/2054504202630558150>MIURA1 barrel (0,7m dia) (left), MIURA5 barrel (2m dia) (center), and MIURA [?] (>3m dia)for future reusable vehicle, including landing legs, control surfaces and propulsive landing. This is going to be MASSIVE.
>>16975425>milled aluminum>not rolled steeli bet they use liquid hydrogen as fuel
>>16975320>>16975324with such a high twr it seems a waste for it to be such a narrow pencil. Shame it takes such effort to change the diameter. Optimal shape for booster and ship is fat gnome shape
>>16975425If I sit on it will it crumple?
>>16975433It would be extremely painful
Blue Origin are much further along the path to reusability than it may look. They replaced the engines on the reused flight of the New Glenn, but that was most likely done to get a deep look at these flight worn engines for an unlimited number of time while they continue the launch manifest, rather than those engines being fucked beyond use. Everything about New Glenn shows they are taking reusability serious from the start. For example the humungous water deluge, or the fact the stage 2 waits so long to start its burn to avoid charring the booster.Starship has gone all in on squeezing every drop of performance out the design to get useful payload to orbit by any means necessary, and it will be probably another half a decade after first orbit until they solve for easy-ish reuse, since right now the booster is expected to endure insane punishment, and as we have seen returns with broken bells and god knows what other damage.
>2022 Lunar HLSWhat went wrong sisters... WHat went so terribly wrong?
>>16975440Okay, do you have a point to make or something?
Why is everyone posting in the fake thread?
>>16975441Late ass NASA HLS downselect with unrealistic expectations, Bezos litigation and a court-ordered stand down on direct HLS work, Biden FAA, Musk shifting to politics and grok, Musk’s melty, unforeseen emergent V2 issues at almost the exact same time as slow ramp up for V3 with a rough transition between the two, supposedly too much hands-off from management and a growing disgruntled workforce and lazy managersThe truth lies somewhere between all of these, I imagine.
Daily reminder: The EU is building Invictus to counter the US.
>>16975450We do not believe carrying hundreds of tonnes of oxidizer is a smart way to put payloads into orbit.
>>16975452How the hell has the SSTO Skylon scam persisted for this long? It's retarded on the face of it. It would be easier to put men on the moon than build this useless plane.
>>16975452Only five years to go before the pathfinder is finished. Being generous and assuming it goes on schedule.>>16975454Subscale pathfinder, so not an SSTO.
>>16975454The founders of REL are all from Rolls Royce and have very close ties to the MIC.
>>16975447There's also the issue that it's a lot easier to build a rocket the size of Starship than it is to build a launch pad that Starship can take off from with a 24 hour turnaround and zero-maintenance. They were originally thinking than they didn't even flame diverters or a deluge system. It looks like they've got something now that can stand up to a rapid launch cadence, but it's taken a while to get there and the pad itself is not something that can be built quickly.
>>16975454>read up on the history of ESA>it was founded by a committee to create studies>it ballooned into more committees creating more studiescrazy that the grift has been going for 60 years
>>16975454nah it would be an insane capability if actually built. There's nothing wrong with the technology itself, merely the implementation of it.
>jesse we have to cookhttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/05/varda-signs-deal-with-major-us-pharma-firm-to-develop-drugs-in-space/
>>16975485>it would be an insane capability if actually builtsuch as?
>>16975457>The founders of REL are all from Rolls Royce and have very close ties to the MIC.Back as a kid when I first got into researching the space industry myself I was scouting the scene trying to find a legit company, there was CG scam here, CG scam there, same as today in many ways actually. Elon instantly won me with the SpaceX office tour. He was legit. I was skeptical of reaction engines, and watching interviews gave me the strong impression that they had zero plan to ever build Skylon, and that the engine program was clearly a military R&D scheme for use in jets, with the vineer of a spaceplane. Very annoying.
Was cancelling Lunar Gateway a good idea?
>>16975500No, it was a great idea
Forgot I was scrubscribed to this guyhttps://youtu.be/lsvXo8dVGDE
>>16975506Nobody gives a fuck, buy an ad.
one day there will be starships landing in china for E2E
>>16975506Do not post this idiot again.
>>16975506I give a fuck, post this idiot again.
>>16975512Taiwan will be made into an E2E spaceport and a project orion glass launchpad
>>16975486meth labs in space?
If the moon landing was real why is it still in the sky? Checkmate atheists
>>16975408>The Imagination AgeCompletely imaginary unless you count AI hallucinating.>>16975526Because the astronauts resisted the powerful urge to eat it when they were up there, otherwise it wouldn't be.
>>16975526the moon hasn’t landed since 1972 silly
>>16975544Why arare you lying? We had an apolo 11 like last month
>Called Saturn V>Never once went to Saturn
>>16975526You don’t have to be total flat earth space is fake schizo mode to understand that the video footage from 1970 of astronauts prancing around on the moon doing donuts and Tokyo drifting in a dune buggy was obviously a giant LARP fest
>>16975554yes you do.because the only refutation to “why didn’t the soviets call us out on it then? why don’t the chinese call us out on it now?” is to expand your position to include all world governments being in cahoots lying about space.
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>>16975550as far as you know, goy
>>16975556to be fair the soviets not publicly screaming “fake” isn’t the slam dunk people think it isif the CIA hands you definitive proof the americans faked the moon landing, your options are basically:>a) expose it and instantly reveal your intelligence capabilities/sources>b) quietly leverage the geopolitical blackmail forevercold war governments were absolutely deranged enough to play games like that
>>16975518no, that's what west taiwan will be used for. all the humans live on taiwan, west taiwan is just bugs.
>>16975559it's extremely wishful thinking at best for a theory that gets debunked in so many other ways anyway.we went to the moon, we have footage of it, everyone who's tried to disprove this has ended up making a fool out of themselves.
>>16975559>>b) quietly leverage the geopolitical blackmail foreverThe USSR collapsed though, if it was ever gonna come out that would've been the time.Moon landing deniers should simply be sterilized and forced out into the wilderness away from civilization.
>>16975556The Soviet and US governments were unironically working in cahoots by the midway point of the Cold War though. Cosmopolitan oligarchs and elites from both powers were able to massively expand their global control and influence under the guise of fake fighting and proxy wars. Dmitry Rogozin (head of Roscosmos) and other influential Russians did eventually imply that there was firm doubt but it just wasn’t expedient for them to publicly accuse the US of faking it at the time, for a variety of reasons.
>>16975564Also important to note that NASA and the Soviet space program were cooperating by the time of the Cold War, to a limited extent publicly and likely moreso privately. It could be justified that the academic/scientific elite in the Soviet space program would have actually wanted to affirm American space accomplishments to further justify receiving more of their own funding for their programs and efforts.
>>16975506Now we just need cost plus content to come back
>>16975454>>16975452>>16975455>>16975457The only failure of REL was being cursed with being British. If they started anywhere else they could get government gibs. But not there. If it was a french idea they would have subsidies. Same in the US, but under some make-work DARPA grant. You will note if you look at all the beautiful flags on Ariane 5 and 6, no UK flag. Because they don't contribute to launchers, and never have since ESA formed. Part of Conservative policy is the belief that if you can pay a foreign company less for something then there is no value in domestic production. They canceled Black Arrow after it started working, saying that they could buy American Scout launches for less. They canceled British participation in ELDO and the Europa rocket program. Thatcher's government canceled HOTOL. Never replacing it with something better, just gutting it. Didn't even have a space agency until 15 years ago, and it's basically a glorified funding council. It's a miracle Alan Bond kept the dream alive this long.
>>16975569Used to live within eyeshot of the National Space Center as a kid and was obsessed with space from a young age. Even as a small child I got the sense that walking those halls was one big humiliation ritual. The crown jewel of the entire place is an American Thor ICBM, not even a space rocket for gods sake. Also they have a whole wall glazing Richard Branson for Virgin Galactic, and to this day not a single letter on SpaceX.
Shartemis III to use a dummy boilerplate (will not be wasting that last ICPS) and will only be LEO, not a higher orbit.Mission will be longer than 9 days and will perform an upgraded heat shield demonstration—still no confirmation if SeX or BO will be providing a Lander for orbital testing at this point, or an Axiom suit.NASA wants to keep the launch date relatively fixed so if nothing is ready they are still launching without lander(s) or suits.Crew and launch date TBD soon
>>16975573what a fucking useless mission if all it ends up doing is popping up to LEO and coming back. What even is the point, in the event neither of the landers are ready?
>>16975574They have to use up an SLS rocket so that they can build another SLS rocket for the next flight.
>>16975573>will not be wasting that last ICPSBut I thought Centaur V was supposed to be ready?
>>16975576They won’t be able to sort that out in time for Artemis 3
Lol so they’re expending time and resources studying / tooling a custom one-off spacer (in lieu of ICPS) instead of just spending this time doing the same thing but with a Centaur V? Bravo
My god How are you fags still hating on artemis get over it they won we all enjoyed artemis 2They should replace orion with a dreamchaser tho
Orion could rendezvous with a Dragon, just for funsies. I mean if nothing else is going on…Run some simulated HLS software or something
>>16975590Orion-Dragon Hubble Reboost
Artemis is fucked imo. After this year's IPOs and fundraising the two major players will have so much money they won't care about NASA contracts.
we could use a big breaking rn
>>16975594Nah bro the people got teased too much they want to see people on the moon now
>>16975573>NASA wants to keep the launch date relatively fixed so if nothing is ready they are still launching without lander(s) or suits.But why? It would be pointless.
>>16975598Jared has autism about increasing SLS launch cadence and I think he’s just made up his mind that Space Launch System can’t sit and collect dust, come hell or high water.It doesn’t make sense but I think he is sick of all of these NASA facilities getting complacent with half-decade stretches of no work
Orion going to LEO with no real goal truly would be the cherry on top of this national embarrassment of a program.Ares I-X perhaps we were too harshly; you were 20 years ahead of the curve!
>>16975601>>16975599No i agree and its based, get them fucking working if they are slow as shit their punishment its to launch sls they gotta be always working
china won
>>16975574>>16975573>>16975575Blaming NASA for the private company fuckups. Next level mental gymnastics people.
stop giving contracts to charlatans then
>>16975609Because firefly or astra could totally get an entire HLS ready by 2029, right?
>>16975610Yeah
>>16975610ARCA could
>>16975302Isaac is just AI slop now. He ran out of material a long time ago
launch companies should stop being reliant on billionaires and government handouts. do some actual real business for a change.
>>16975619Its impossible
>>16975619Taking handouts is the business
>>16975620starlink is exactly that, even if musk is the epitome of the billionaireI have no idea about who would control spacex if he died but its business is more than sustainable, it could go on without any help.
musk is irreplaceable
>>16975627He is in fact precisely replaceable if “the light of consciousness” (his words) really just boils down to a machine that can artificial think and make managerial decisions really, really well
>"i am spaceflight"-elon, 2009
>>16975624Are you dumbfucked? It only worked cause he is a billonaire and was able to try multiple timesHow would a small company try any business without handouts? And if you already have the money from handouts why continue with rockets if you already have money which is a bussiness is aim at getting?Another thing is there isnt much you can do to gain money in space atm
>>16975633*which is what a business aims to get
some good shit today
I have PTSD regarding Starship launches. It wont be fixed until we see 10 launches in a row
>>16975633Also his parents were trillionaires that gave him all the money to try. Musk once joked that to become a billionaire, you have to start as a trillionaire. Musk is a fraud, he wasted trillion dollars from his family and became a billionaire.
>>16975638>Later this year, officials will simulate additional scenarios involving proliferated satellite constellations across different orbital regimes tactical orbital data centers
I am become meme- Pretty much, yeah.- E
jeez the comments on the space wargames article are appalling. its clear that not a single commentator read the article, and are only commenting on the headline.
Only 3 more years Elonbros
tick tocktwo days, muskratsbetter prepare your cope for when shartslip inevitably gets delayed until next month
>>16975658Yeah i think its a good timeline
>>16975656Were you born yesterday? It's a dead Internet, since 2016
>>16975661Shartship was delayed, the new launch date is 19 May, 10:30pm UTC.But I'm wondering if they're going to take that risk, the IPO being just a month away and all that.
>>16975661>>16975655>>16975632Do you need something?
>>16975638Neanderthals were pretty cool, yeah. A STR-INT built, as opposed to our DEX-INT.
>>16975668Can I have a double cheeseburger, fries, and a coke? thx
>>16975670Sir this is not a Wendy'sWe only have froyo
Sfg books?I recently learned there is a cold war era lockheed martin book and added to my tbr
>>16975604at wasting it's chance at being a superpower with wolf-warrior politics.
>>16975673Ignition!Rendezvous with RamaA book whose name currently escapes me at the moment but it’s about why casualties kind of need to happen if we ever want to be risky enough to push the envelopeEric Berger’s booksBeowulf, the Burton Raffel translation, which has nothing to do with spaceflight but is still so good - so add it to our colony bookshelf
>>16975679>Rendezvous with RamaEverybody always says this book is dry but I fucking loved it, the sequels suffer from the human drama introduced by the co-writer and the conclusion was meh. I prefer the mysteries left by the first book's ending, whatever I imagine is more interesting than what the writer came up with.
>>16975673the high frontier
>>16975673Obligatory.
>>16975682Ringworlds Children mogs it
>>16975673Carrying the FireThe BombChallenger: A Major Malfunction>>16975679what does he translate whale-road as?
>>16975707all terrible books by people who know nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kHxvJ8266ICRS-34 launching in T-40:00
>>16975709>weather only 20% favorable (rain and lightning)
https://x.com/NASA_Marshall/status/2054668817045864678>NASA's Artemis III mission will be a crewed flight in Earth orbit that will test rendezvous and docking capabilities between the agency’s Orion spacecraft and commercial landers from Blue Origin and SpaceX.>Instead of using the interim cryogenic propulsion stage as the upper stage of the SLS (Space Launch System) rocket for this mission, NASA will use a “spacer,” a representation of the mass and overall dimensions of an upper stage but without propulsive capabilities.>Design and fabrication activities for the spacer are progressing rapidly at NASA Marshall. Material for the barrel section and the upper and lower rings is currently being machined at our center in preparation for upcoming welding operations.
>>16975708what? Rhodes's book is excellent. Sorry I truncated it, if you were thinking of something else called the bomb
https://x.com/AndyLapsa/status/2054621144364511463
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real anons remember scrubtober
>>16975714>>16975715It will be interesting if Stoke's design works. Previously the common wisdom was you have to do a huge vehicle for full reusability to get the margins you need, but Stoke is opening the door to much smaller and cheaper projects that many more nations can afford.Their heatshield is also potentially interesting, although it seems like it will have oxidation issues like those metallic tiles SpaceX tested on Starship.
>>16975707Whale-road is translated simply as ‘the sea,’ so it substitutes some metaphors for literal meanings. Not sure if you approve of that or not but I first read beowulf back in high school through the notorious Heaneywulf translation with an autistic Oxford-educated teacher who broke down every single line of the book so I was already aware of the context. Also I love Tolkien but I find his translation too rough as he simply wanted to preserve the language itself at the cost of enjoyment>>16975716It never went away>>16975718Dual-purpose engined and heat shield asses should be spared from the sustained metallic heating issues SS experienced. At least, this is what others have said
>>16975710now %95! looks like they're threading the needleT-1m
HOLD HOLD HOLD NO GOSCRUB
>>16975718>Previously the common wisdom was you have to do a huge vehicle for full reusability to get the margins you needWhich is true.It's not like you can't get to orbit with a fully reusable rocket. Just that making it reusable absolutely murders your performance to the point where it's just not worth it. Stoke rocket will face this challenge. Lucky for them they arent SpaceX in 2008, Stoke may be able to keep afloat due to the abundance of very low earth orbit constellations being built out.
>>16975718Nova's a rocket that's lifting three tons to orbit while massing the same as expendable vehicles that are lifting eight. The rule for buying reusability by selling payload capacity is still in effect.
>>16975731And those are the most optimistic numbers possible for LEO and before they even assemble the vehicle. In reality they will struggle to get positive mass to orbit. Comiting to a fully reusable rocket straight out the box may prove to be their downfall. They really should have gone the SpaceX route and built their launcher expendable to get some money to fund the push to make it reusable.
>>16975633When Musk started SpaceX he had like 200mil, he wasn't a billionaire
>>16975735imagine what had happened if he didn't have a melty over re-writing PayPal to windows language or whatever
>>16975735With inflation that’s nearly a trillion dollars
>>16975729
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2054726453741150355>Unclear what is happening with the Varda Space W-4 reentry. The W-4 spacecraft made a manuever on May 10 to lower orbit from 284 x 835 km to 162 x 820 km. At the same time a new object, catalog 69094, was found in a 157 x 735 km orbit. Object 69094 (2025-135BX) based on TLE analysis appears to have come off W-4. It is probably too early to conclude it is the reentry vehicle, with a failed deorbit burn, but I look forward to an update from Varda Space.
>>16975299https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2054746883734606185>After hints and blurry photos and what seems to be an abort in March, it looks like LandSpace may well finally launch for their 1st time since their dramatic ZQ-3 1st flight - with a smaller non-recoverable rocket of theirs at the top of this hour.
>>16975743With Elmo having his guy in the white house you would think he would push for loosening of the rules around weather criteria, but I guess he forgot and was too busy burning all his political capital in DOGE while sperging out over stupid ragebait on x
>>16975767There are better things to spend political capital on than arguing with the LLCC criteria, and that easily includes Doge.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2054760647603442076>Lift-off footage of the ZQ-2E Y5
>>16975781I don't really care about China
>>16975703True
>>16975785
>>16975786ROFL, know your place bitch
Why would the lander need life support? Just go down already suited up
>>16975785>>16975786Unstoppable Force (Garver being an fence-sitting foid) vs Immovable Object (Jared’s autism to keep Artemis III no matter how in the trenches it is)
>>16975786>>16975787Must suck for her not being able to just run circles around Ballast Bill and Bridenstine anymore.
>>16975519
>>16975788>the empty evacuated hls lander IS the axiom suit test environmentDelightfully counterintuitive
>>16975792kek I was thinking of this image earlier but couldn’t find it
>>16975786read between the lines and this is pure cope
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2054773636645408965>As it turns out this vastly different ZQ-2E w/ a further lengthened 1st stage didn't carry any payload - the launch at 03:00 UTC ultimately successfully placed a 2800 kg dummy payload to a 900 km high polar orbit (one used for some Chinese LEO comsat constellations).Ladies and Gentlemen, the ZQ-2E+
>>16975785>you're moving too slow! dates are getting pushed back! you promised launches and landings!>>16975791>you're moving too fast! deadlines are being met too frequently! you promised everything would be tested and 99.9% reliable before use! certain 'space' reporters are insufferable
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2054773014299025770>Full launch video of Today's ZQ-2E Y5. via Land Space
>>16975806So it failed?
China W__
>>16975486Real ones know that this is actually bad news. United Therapeutics loves to do publicity stunt partnerships with startups that go nowhere. I work for a company that's been working with them on a hydrogen electric helicopter (allegedly for organ delivery or some shit) for like five years and it has gone absolutely nowhere. We don't even make the hardware they use in their helicopter anymore, it's all just legacy shit they pay us pennies to maintain every 18 months or so.
>Muh inceladus Fuck you we titan maxxing only
Umm, bros? What if they did the Lunar base together??
>>16975822No.
>>16975822It would be illegal for NASA, unless changes are made by congress.
golden dome will maintain 7,800 missiles in spacesounds like alot right?it doesnt matter cuz the system can only engage 10 fucking targets at the same timehttps://www.twz.com/space/7800-interceptors-in-space-at-core-of-1-2-trillion-golden-dome-cost-estimatewhat a shit show
>>16975828>30,000 satellites>300 to 500km orbit>5 year shelf life
was it autism?
>>16975828Anon, do you think all the interceptors will be in the same place at the same time? Or even on the same side of the planet? Anon, do you know what a MIRV is? Anon, how many warheads (and dummy warheads) are in any ICBM worth its salt?
>>16975701This phrase means a jew wrote it, btw
>>16975828You do realize that the real capabilities, performance, and quantities of the interceptors will never be public, right? Why do you choose to get upset over something like this?
Right now Jared(Jar Jar) Is(Islamic State)sacman is loved by /sfg/ and there is not really any hate against him but in the coming years he will be hated like Elon(felon) Musk(husk) because everything will be delayed again and again. At least Felon has practically infinite time to deliver his promises and will eventually do it but Jar Jar only has 3 more years and won't have a chance to deliver, his legacy reputation on /sfg/ won't be nice.
>>16975842but we don’t hate elon musk either, you’re living in your own little bubble.
>>16975828
>>16975845You just keep going on thinking that this is an unsolved problem.
>>16975741So it isn’t a trillion dollars at all and that was a lie, cool.
>>16975785This bitch would be defending artemis if it wasn’t run by isaacman lmao.
>>16975786This nigga absolutely destroys journalists.
musk absolutely destroys sfg
>>16975785This windbag has said enough over the last two decades. Quiet piggy
>>16975822He's trying to get China to stop arming Iran. All part of the millennium humiliation ritual.
>>16975828Why are you reading articles? It's always bs
>>16975864the article is going over a government report
sfg is ALIVE
If I check Zubrin's twitter right now, will the first post be about Mars, COVID, or Ukraine?
>>16975869based zigger hater.
>>16975828Golden Dome is now a battle between the sane people (Mark Kelly) and crazies (Anduril, Palantir etc)
wen launch?
>>16975711What. The. Fuck. They are just chucking 4 RS-25s into the ocean for... what?
>>16975869Covid outbreak on the ukrainian mars base
>>16975887because the lazy ass SLS manufacturers need a kick in the ass and need to be bullied into getting their cadence up. i don't care what they're used for, the excuses are over, launch SLS now as quickly and as often as possible.
>>16975895They're pumping out one core stage a year now.
Post yfw sls has a higher launch cadence than starship
>>16975986makes feel like you're an idiot
>>16975986>post yfw fantasy scenariowhy would i do that?
>>16975828>the system can only engage 10 fucking targets at the same timeFell for clickbait award again, that's not what CBO said.
according to nsf the stack shrinks when it's loadedhttps://youtu.be/6jo3dVY5zrI?t=181If that is true wouldn't that stress a lot the tiles attachment?
>>16975993Because it's fun. You'd know if you got your head out of elon's ass.
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2054900174380487132>ULA says they are beginning to stack the next Vulcan while the SRB investigation continues. This will be Amazon Leo LV-01, which will be the 1st with 6 SRB's & LEO Centaur V. Stacking will allow teams to perform tests & a WDR to be ready once the investigation ends.
>>16976027vulcan is alot smaller than i imagined
>>16975673name?
>>16976011v3 still looks like a hobby project
>>16975774Doge was useless and made Elon a ton of enemies for no reason. What his lolbertarian brain fundamentally fails to understand is that government spending is GOOD for the economy. That is why large scale war such as WW2 actually turbocharged the economy. People involved in the MIC are doing functionally useless jobs because tanks and guns do not change theprice of food and housing, yet still military spending helped the entire economy. Apollo for that matter was trememndously good for the economy, in part BECAUSE it was expensive. That expense went to well paid employees who then spent their money in the economy, lubricating the machine. The solution to government debt is to tax the people who the government actually owes the debt to, it's that simple. Lowering government expenditure in the real economy never helps, becuase when the goverment spends less then the population is poorer so the government raises less in tax revenues.TLDR an economy does not work the same as the finances of a small shop. Elon Musk should personally know this becuase he is quite familiar with the principal of spend more to make more
>>16976040Every single penny spent by the Government is money taken from the sectors of the economy that actually produce the value used to pay for government sector work. Every single thing the Government spends money on is someone else's labor being forced to stretch further to pay for something else. When World War 2 spending stopped, the entire economy dropped back to the status quo like it never happened. Years of extra tax revenue were needed to make bond payments for everything spent, and effectively speaking, it was a wash; they bolstered the economy in the short term to create a burden in the long term so they could procure equipment and train men and arm them to win the war. If that borrowing against the future is not paid off, all they achieve is massive inflation and devaluation of the currency.
>>16976027It’s time to just do a tri-core vulcan heavy.
>>16976043I agree that government is not a good decider of what to spend on, which is why it is lucky that it doesn't much matter what they spend on. If you want the currency to become stronger then the government could collect tax money and light it on fire, it would have a similar positive effect to spending on some random MIC project, except it would be deflationary.The reason it has a positive effect on the economy is a progressive tax system which increases the percentage taken the higher income you are. A free market is fundamentally unstable and collapses to monopoly just like the board game, because money attracts more money like how matter forms planets and stars. The government prevents economic collapse by skimming some money from above and watering the grass down below. Though I 100% agree that the way this is done is retarded and immoral whilst not even working well. The balancing function on the economy should be done by taxing wealth. The big issue is when someone has such wealth that their passive income from the wealth is greater than that of a person working hard. That breaks the economy and is what makes everything unaffordable. Government should remove taxes on income and introduce taxes on wealth, then all of a sudden we wouldnt have an economic depression every decade.
>>16976046Wealth taxes are just income taxes with extra steps. Houses are wealth. How do you pay off what the state says your property is worth every year? It's the kind of that that dissolves into feudalism because nobody can afford the costs of individual ownership. And population collapse will accelerate dramatically, as personal ownership is basically a requirement to starting a family. A bad tax scheme can destroy a civilization, and this would be a very bad tax scheme.
>>16976048Kind of thing that dissolves into feudalism*. It's also especially cruel to anyone who is no longer able to work or able to find employment, because the value of their assets is still due. When wealth is taxed, you do not get tax relief for being unemployed. It also prevents generational wealth buildup, denying people class mobility or the ability to advance with successive generations. All in all, it's the most regressive tax scheme imaginable.
>>16976048Obviously it should be a progressive tax like how income taxes are now. Most people are not net contributors in income tax. Likewise poorfags who own only one house will not be bled dry by a wealth tax. In fact, they would not be paying it at all.Wealth taxes are not income taxes with extra steps, because passive income is not counted as income when your passive income is in assets.We presently have a bad tax scheme, the exact thing thatwould dissolve into feudalism is one where it becomes impossible to move into the class of owners through hard work. If you allow unfettered wealth accumulation, which we are allowing, then every asset will become too expensive to own.
>>16976055If you've ever seen the history of tax policy, all taxes are spread to more and more people as the government's infinite capacity to tax and spend grows. The income tax used to only apply to the wealthiest 10% before it applied to absolutely everybody.
>>16976056I know. Nothing in this world is perfect but it doesn't mean we should give up and die. Mars would naturally become uninhabitable again if we terraformed it, should we give up? The world is a chaotic place and a constant struggle. Anything has the potential to be abused. Right now we have income tax which is objectively worse than wealth tax. Either can be abused, but the baseline we are working from is a tax system which allows unrestricted capital accumulation if you get rich enough. And that fucks everyone else. If you swapped out income tax for wealth tax then magically assets would become affordable because asset hoarders would have less incentive to hoard. I'm not claiming it is perfect or would be implimented perfectly, nothing ever is.
>>16975559The intel necessary to prove the Apollo landings were happening in real time consists of one radio receiver listening to the comms.>>16976058What will actually happen with a wealth tax is the most wealthy people will cash out and leave, the industries they run will contract/get less productive and worse, the people left behind will suffer as a result of fewer jobs and worse economy, and finally the government will begin expanding the definition of the wealth tax to less and less wealthy individuals in order to make up for shortfalls of expected tax revenue. This has happened every time a wealth tax is tried, it simply cannot function as intended. I'm all for wanting a better and more just world but wealth tax is absolutely not the way to accomplish that.
>>16976060>The intel necessary to prove the Apollo landings were happening in real time consists of one radio receiver listening to the comms.completely false. both the US and USSR had their own monitoring networks and the transmissions were picked up by numerous amateurs running their own antennas etc.
>>16976062>intelyoudo realise they are partnering with Musk right?
>>16976062Illiterate or ESL. Call it.
>>16976058There is no version or course of human events where a wealth tax ends well. It is not worth it to try, and is worth a great deal of effort to make sure it does not come to pass.
>>16976040DOGE gutted the democrats system for funding its foot soldiers
>>16975245>each iteration of Starship is getting increasingly NASA-fied in appearanceMake Greebles Great Again
>>16976068I think that's just the process of iterative refinement in action. The difference with SpaceX is that they start building long before they finish iterating.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2054879214697168958
>>16976078five eyes countries are the most obvious to get starship launch sites, with aus likely leading the pack
>>16976078Why launch from there? Shipping starship all the wayto the outback just for it to get kicked by a kangaroo doesnt seem like an efficient endeavour
>>16976086at the point where they're building international launchpads, they'll be for starship E2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYG27as_NrE
>>16976088I got telsa syndrome hahahaha
>>16976087>starship E2Elmao
https://x.com/MesoCellWx/status/2054784219746804095>Okay i need an explanation of what the heck i just missed over my head in MN...https://x.com/mickeywzx/status/2054829157750903208>ZhuQue-2E fuel dumping. The preferred noon launch window local time China, and polar orbit, would send the upper stage crossing America at midnight local time. These would be more and more frequent in summer
>>16976092an angel :)
>>16975673>>16975682Pushing Ice is pretty goodvery similar theme as Rama series, but I thought the human drama is less uninteresting
>>16975682This is my beef with Logan's Run too.The first one was neat, inventive, immaculate vibes. The sequels became so impossibly retarded that I think the author dropped about 30 iq before writing them. The difference between writing a book after a little bit of LSD and writing sequels after microwaving your brain with LSD for ten years.
>>16976035Skunk works
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/2054955013420593564>A new chapter begins. The first Vulcan booster is vertical in the new Vertical Integration Facility (VIF-A) dedicated to Amazon Leo. This milestone enables testing of first use technologies and validates systems supporting Amazon’s LEO constellation.
>>16976011>it shrinks a little in the coldit's just shy, okay?
>>16976037v3 looks like something Icould build in my back yard for 400 bucks.
>>16976011Yes. During launch the ship is cold and shrunken, which makes tile cracking more frequent. Then during entry the ship ishot and expanded so plasma can seep through the gaps
>>16976144you make my ship expand, will you let me do entry and seep my plasma through your gaps?
>>16975302Isaac is decent for what he does. I'm not as interested in speculative futurism as I am nuts-and-bolts stuff so I don't listen to everything he puts out. He seems like a good dude, and the NSS is a good counter to the Planetary Society. JMG is cool. He's a good speaker and he presents topics in a level way without trying to lean into popsci bs. I haven't watched much of any Astrum. Always seemed like popsci clickbait whenever the thumbnails would pop up on my page.Anton seems like a cool guy, but his accent makes it hard for me to pay attention to his videos.
>>16975302KikePlanet is the best.High effort stunningly produced videos.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdaNqHr-9Zghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdaNqHr-9Zghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdaNqHr-9Zghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdaNqHr-9Zghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdaNqHr-9Zg
>>16975786Holy cope!
https://x.com/Gwynne_Shotwell/status/2055000810883346754
>>16975828unironically no price is too greatbecoming the orbital authority grants you sovereignty over the entirety of earthalthough I'm playing devil's advocate here because it would be ZOG taking the crown in this case
>>16975850yeah he's good at this
>>16975440For as much fun as the "Jeff Who?" memes were, and how easy it was to dunk on BO a few years ago especially during the moon contract debacle, I genuinely hope that they do well. I actually interviewed with BO for a rocket assembly tech position. They were so sure that they were going to get that moon lander contract that they had a huge boom of job listings, only for them to not hire virtually anyone immediately afterwards. I still kind of wish that I had gotten that job, as I don't currently work in spaceflight, but it would have necessitated me staying in Seattle. Fuck that place.
>>1697582810 better than zero and that could be increased with more sats (so more over the USA or relevant place at any time)the feasibility will scale as the cost of launch gets cheaper and cadence higher
>>16976058retard detected
>>16975673>SCI-FII tried reading Homer Hickam's books about lunar miners, but they weren't really my thing. Will have to revisit them at some point.I started reading Ben Bova's Mars. It's alright, but the main character is an Amerindian half-breed who spends the first several chapters seething about white people despite being on Mars because of them, so that didn't make me want to continue. I'll also have to revisit that because the rest of the books in that Grand Tour series look interesting (has anyone else read them?)The Expanse books are decent. I'm on the 8th one I think. Some good stuff in there, but the social commentary crap gets old. I really enjoyed the first half of Seveneves. It portrays spaceflight in a really immersive way. The timeskip at the midway point of the book was where I dropped it. Will revisit at some point but I wanted more near-future stuff.Beyond that, Clarke and Heinlein are my go-to's. I look forward to reading my son Space Cadet when he's old enough.>NON-FICTIONFundamentals of AstrodynamicsYeagerRed Star in OrbitCarrying the FireSkunkworksThe Search for Life on Other Planets
>Wait up boys let me mogg this beta carbon boy first>mog maxxing youWat u do?
>>16976163whew that was a close one
>>16976177*splashes water at them*
>>16976190You're supposed to airdrop Head & Shoulders on them
https://x.com/annasofialesiv/status/2055009168948666380>you can now put >200x more power into the same area as traditional welding could, do it 5x faster. with a device you can buy on amazon and hold in your hands! elon did this 6 years ago, and now starship is very pretty. please read my ode to hand held laser welders below.
>>16976191I've never seen this movie. I do remember trailers of it when my dad rented some movies from blockbuster, around that time, however.I should probably watch it now. Don't tell me you spoiled me on some pivotal scene.
>>16976205it has aged really poorly imo
sfg quiz time: the following orbital rocket(s) have launched from the southern hemisphere>
>>16976219if you're very strictly talking to the south of the equatorial line, then only three vehicles come to mind:rocketlab's Electron (duh)britain's Black Arrowand the ukranian Zenit via Sealaunch.
>>16976221also Sparta from Australia! not well known
>>16976221looking it up now, there's only one other, a redstone SPARTA once launched from woomera, and that's about it.
>>16976219Black ArrowElectronGilmour's Eris is intended to be orbital, but hasn't gotten that far yet...
1 week
>>16976221Zenit is russian pigger hohol
>>16976240for what?
>>16976246starship flight 12
wasnt it meant to be 1 week about 1 week ago?
>>16976248It’s actually 1 week about 1 week from now
>>16976178I appreciate the effort that went into this.
>>16976240wtf? I was told 4 days?
2 week
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>>16976257concerning
dos semanas
>>16975873by why do yids have so much hate in their hearts? what did a young russian conscript or a palestinian paramedic or an iranian school girl ever do to you?
these guys legit?
>>16976157david and goliath is a jew vs goyim story
>>16976269That's why it resonates honey.
>>16976078? Just make more launch pads near canaveral could easily handle 10 launches+ a day
>>16976271but think about the nudists on the beach
>>16976271It would probably be cheaper and come with less red tape to build launch pads in some poorfag state/country desperate for the business rather than in the prime real estate for launch.
>>16976278I've been saying they should build all this in arkansas for years nowThe government doesn't want you to know this, but you can launch from inland too
>>16976266No
>>16976043this is the correct take, everything else is just "I'm going to help you grow your economy by going around and breaking windows, you're gonna need lots of immigrants to fix them all, you're welcome my friend" (((economics))) as envisioned by the parasites not the actual workers/taxpayers
what if you were a silicon lifeform but had a 50 IQ
>>16976285I would 30 more than right now?plus super silicon always hard dick
silicon life has occured a grand total of zero times in the universe.
>>16976269but David doesn't sneak up to a well at night and put poison in it to kill Goliath and his entire tribe in the original story
>>16976289That you know of carbon boyAlso wait for dragonfly
>>16976279maybe it will become common to launch from the middle of nowhere inland in the future, but right now I think SpaceX would be taking a big risk if a vehicle exploded and parts rained down on states with more gravitas
>>16976291honestly im a doubter but if life was found on titan it would be awesome. Do they even have any plans to look for life?
>>16976294Yeah
>>16976294>>16976296Fuuuck you just made me thing the fuckers will look for carbon life and completely miss silicon life, fuuck noo they need to fix that
>>16976284kill silicon life ON SIGHT. give it NO TIME TO LIVE. it should be every carbon-based lifeforms goal to DESTROY silicon life wherever it appears.
>>16976298Gantz has silicon aliens?
>>16976297hopefully they do the viking labelled release experiment and call it a day
>>16976269And just like in real life, the goyim lose
>>16976310Stop being mean to the goyim, it is like kicking the muel
>Spinlaunch is a sca....https://satnews.com/2026/05/13/spinlaunch-partners-with-aalyria-for-meridian-constellation-network-orchestration/
>>16976312Thunderf00t btfo
>>16976313Hardly the first time.
>>16976312Spinlaunch 100% is a scam lmao
>>16976318It'll totally work bro
>>16976312>vaporware company partners with vaporware company to scam investors
>>16976298I wish I had a Jupiter-sized room for myself, too.by the way, Killy was a dick here, that silicon manlet wasn't doing anything to him lmao>>16976299It's BLAME!, long story short it's about a [spoiler] future where clankers go insane and keep on mindlessly building stuff, to the point that they use all the available matter in the solar system, resulting in a 'city' the size of, at least, Jupiter's orbit. They are also able to convert energy to mass, and teleport to and from other universes / star systems, that's why they never run out of materiales to use. [/spoiler]. Yeah, I know the spoilers tag don't work here.
>>16976330What in the sigma??? Based
>>16976329>It's BLAME!I will give it a try thanks brah
>>16976312>Wall of textI love AI
>>16976157David didn't kill Goliath.
>>16976335source?
>>16976335Not in my Beginner's Baby Bible, very true
>>16976335His skeleton showed sings of a healed skull fracture, which means he outlived the rock strike
>>16976341No that was gigantopithicus
>>16976330>No new postsWhats the rocket in the center back?
>>16976297No silicates on Titan
>>16976348Bro i just had a deep conversation with chat gpt, it told me i am a nig and indeed silicon life cant exist thereIts lie i been thinking and promoting here and to my friends for years, cause an spanish podcast said that titan most likely didnt have carbon life but maybe silicon lifeAll fake fuuuuuck someone hug me
>>16976367
>>16976367Yep Titan is made of ice and liquid farts.
how are there close to 400 launches expected this year but it feels like we get maybe 1 launch a week?
>>16976402Inflation. There are now 400 weeks per year
Elon btfo'd again by spaceguy5. space-based [anything] doesn't work, space is only for observation and comms
>>16976241>instant angry zigger cope and seethealways hilarious, sorry that your favourite shithole is no longer relevant, i really hope you get over it one day.putin is a jew, this mindbreaks you.
>>16976264>why do yidsi'm not a russian oligarch though, i'm not jewish, sorry. you can stop trying to project russia's jewishness onto others now.
>>16976415he didn't say that
>>16976415spaceguy5's opinion is irrelevant and anyone posting twitter screencaps of him will not be taken seriously.
Who would be a better president for space? AOC, Gavin or Kamala?
>>16976344The mouth looks like a logo, but I don't recognise it. Maybe it's supposed to be starliner and it's sort of boeing's logo but with a star
>>16976427Yakub
>the guy saying spacex is going to use the louisiana site for barge transport of starships might have been right all alonghttps://keatyblog.com/spacex-pecan-island-louisiana/i thought he was just wildly speculating, but wtf
>>16976440
Let's all brianstorm a space shuttle which used Methane instead of Hydrogen for the RS25!
>>16976448
>>16976448Honestly if you try to maximize potential from a redesigned shuttle from scratch, you basically just get Starship
>>16976427Kamal didn't give a single shit about spaceAOC would probably be anything to due with space with populist rhetoric (more money for dem programs)Gavin would probably also be against in some way but at least he seemed to be against the wealth tax proposal because he knew what the implications are (people leaving), he seems like a pretty run of the mill opportunistic politician (a bit like kamala, but maybe not as retarded) so depending on where the wind blows he could either be good or badso I would say: Gavin > Kamala > AOC, though all of them would be bad (you already saw the slowdown and lawfare that happened during Kamala)
>>16976462is this slowdown in the room with us right now?Starship has spend voer half the year doing nothing honey
>>16976284>doesnt need water>*citation needed*
>>16976483probably liquid hydrocarbons, especially methane
Daily reminder anti-SpaceX is psyops. Who else is doing anything remotely interesting?
>>16976467no, the DOJ isn't going after SpaceX for self-contradictory bullshit, the FCC isn't blocking them randomly, SpaceX is actually getting enviromental reviews through in a timely manner and able to expand the launch site and so onits not just about launching or not launching, its everything else supporting that and SpaceX business in general
>>16976497blue
>>16976497pretty much the whole launch industry. SpaceX is nothing special.
>>16976501
>>16976446very cool, thanks anon, never heard of the intracoastal waterway before.
>>16975792Why did they send Buffalo Bill to the moon?
>>16976501except for the part where they're the only ones launching with any real cadence, were up until very recently the only ones who knew how to do propulsive landing and re-use, are the only way for the US to launch astronauts, and generally just carry the entirety of US spaceflight on their backs because everyone else just keeps tripping over themselves (see the recent blue origin orbit insertion failure). believe me, i WANT everyone else to be competitive/succeeding, but most of the time they're just not, i'd say the only ones other than spacex that have that magic sauce is rocketlab, they've done some exceptionally difficult missions with a tiny smallsat rocket and they already have more experience doing launch operations than most others besides spacex combined, neutron will be a massive success imo.
no one complains too much about Boeing being the only game in town for large US jets.No one will complain too much when SpaceX is the only game for large rockets.
>>16976090No, major world cities love having Saturn V levels of noise every hour!
>>16976446>roughly halfway>450 miles west>850 miles eastand you have to go around Florida, it's way more than 850
Air Force 1 is crazy, it really is just a giant office in the sky
>>16976505he was gonna give them the hose again if they didn't
>>16976511thats insane
>>16976511For me, it is the escape pod
>>16976511They used to hand out presidential cigarette packs, then we got gay and switched to m&m’s
>>16976514the first one to talk gets to stay on my aircraft
>>16976507>neutron will be a massive success imostopped reading there.
>>16976511not spaceflight
https://x.com/cas_space/status/2055156532594045230>Kinetica-1 has successfully completed its Y13 mission, deploying five rideshare satellites into target orbit. Our cumulative deployment exceeds 100 satellites — a proud milestone that boosts Kinetica-1's standing as the leading commercial launch vehicle in the domestic market.
>>16976521non-spacex western launch companies, your responses (excuses)?
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2055276764255957361>Official mission re-cap video:
>>16976519The President should get his own personal Starship painted white with the blue stripe, call it Space Force 1 and fly E2E so the President can go anywhere he wants to within the hour.
>>16976528Dr. Soran no!
>>16976427> Who would be a better president for space? AOC, Gavin or Kamala?Democrats have gone full Whitey On The Moon, nothing pro space will be coming from them
https://spacenews.com/virgin-galactic-reaffirms-plans-to-begin-commercial-service-this-year/>Virgin Galactic said May 14 it remains on track, technically and financially, to start commercial flights of its next-generation suborbital spaceplane before the end of the year. In a first-quarter earnings call, company executives said work on its first SpaceShip vehicle is on schedule, with the completed airframe recently moving from its assembly hangar to a testing hangar at its production facility near Phoenix. The vehicle will be completed and rolled out by the company’s next earnings call in August, after which it will be transported by Virgin’s Eve carrier aircraft to Spaceport America in New Mexico for flight tests.>The confidence in that schedule has allowed the company to inform its current base of 650 customers approximately when each of them will fly. Those flights will take place in 2027 and into the first half of 2028. Doug Ahrens, Virgin Galactic CFO, said the company expects to fly four times a month in January 2027, ramping up to eight flights a month in the second quarter. The first SpaceShip will be joined by a second, currently being fabricated and scheduled for delivery at the end of this year or early next year. Virgin announced it would sell 50 tickets at $750,000 each as an initial step to restarting commercial sales. [VG] did not disclose how many tickets had been sold but said there was strong interest.
>>16976532they are right.
>>16976535Well, as I am pro space, they can die in a fire
>A space unicorn started by Baiju Bhatt, the billionaire co-founder of Robinhood Markets Inc., raised $275 million, changed its name, and unveiled a plan to build data centers in orbit, Bloomberg reports. Bhatt’s startup, founded in 2024, was rebranded to Cowboy Space Corp. from Aetherflux, which initially focused on building satellites for beaming solar energy to Earth. Index Ventures led the funding, which valued Cowboy Space at $2 billion, the startup said Monday in a statement. Silicon Valley-based Cowboy Space will use the funding to develop its own rocket to put data centers into orbit.https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/05/rocket-report-russia-claims-success-with-new-icbm-spaceplane-deja-vu-in-europe/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-11/robinhood-billionaire-bhatt-s-cowboy-space-raises-275-millionwe could be making billions with powerpoint scams about orbital data centers
>>16976507>cadencecool but this one launch mogged 1000 spacex launches
>>16976540
SLS can be a ssto
>>16976540how come space shuttle srbs have never had a nozzle explode?
>>16976548mormon engineering
>>16976540wrong, i have never seen an event in spaceflight so thoroughly make even the most stoic person basedface as the first starship orbital re-entry, that shit was kino beyond bounds, there is no argument against this.
>>16976518>stopped reading at the end of the postyes, that's what everyone does, that's normal.
>>16976542SLS won't get off the pad without its SRB
>>16976542Shit stack to obsolescence?
>>16976559>that's normalstopped reading there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBrB9zh-eCY
>>16976563>therestopped reading there.
I didn't read anything at all. Someone help I'm so confused.
>>16975408That article itself is evidence someone took "Imagination Age" too seriously, in several ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IBGuHnxIZY
>>16976586FUKING KINO.FakeX would never
>>16976586fix ur 2nd stage
>>16976586LETS GOOO SPACE COWBOY!!![math]\unicode{x1F920}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F920}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F920}[/math]
>>16976589shut the fuck up~T
>>16976586thank you Mr. Bruno. Very Cool!
>>16976589eat an ass
>>16976489No they dont drink methaneSee >>16976367 pic rel
drink
>>16976611I want a scoop of this
>>16976416Putin is not a Jew. Putin eats Jews for breakfast.
https://spaceflightnow.com/2026/05/14/ula-confirms-successful-solid-rocket-booster-test-as-vulcan-anomaly-investigation-continues/>On April 15, the company said Northrop Grumman performed a successful static fire test of a Graphite Epoxy Motor (GEM) 63XL Solid Rocket Booster (SRB). A spokesperson told Spaceflight Now on Thursday that the test served to “demonstrate nozzle design enhancements which were already in work and an advanced propellant technology for future solid rocket motors across their portfolio. The information gathered from this test, along with findings from the investigations will provide critical data to validate analytical models and support Vulcan’s return to flight.">“The integrated U.S. government and contractor team is reviewing the technical data, available imagery and have collected any debris. We are in the process of conducting a thorough investigation and will implement any corrective action necessary before we launch the next Vulcan mission.” Wentz said where the pieces of the SRB nozzle came off landed in water that was likely too deep for them to recover, unlike the previous nozzle issue that occurred during the second certification flight of Vulcan back in October 2024. “Vulcan’s going to get back to flight by the end of the year and then we’ll launch our manifest backlog that we have.">While the timing of a return to flight mission for Vulcan is still be assessed, during his remarks to Spaceflight Now, Wentz said that the customer for the return to flight mission would more than likely be Amazon. On Wednesday, ULA hoisted the first Vulcan booster inside its newly finished Vertical Integration Facility – Amazon (VIF-A) near Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. Its introduction gives the company two physical lanes with which it can stack its Vulcan rockets in the future.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2055324577128214760
>>16976619elon: we are 100% pivoting to leo data centers and never going to mars
>>16976619Alright i’ve done a lot of shittalking against Musk the last year but this is based
>>16976622sadly yes.
>>16976586This guy needs to be CEO of spacex
>>16976611OH YEAH
>>16976619based and proper incentive structure-pilled
>>16976615putin is literally a jew anon, he is jewish on his mother's side. i can't believe people keep getting psyopped by the basedtrad russia meme, they are the endstate of what you fear is happening here, bro. russia is the ultimate tamed goyim nation.
https://x.com/Amazonleo/status/2055334055738999037>A more powerful Ariane 64. Our largest Ariane payload yet. The next batch of Amazon Leo satellites arrived in French Guiana ahead of launch on Leo Europe 3 (LE-03) with Arianespace. LE-03 will be our first mission aboard Ariane 64 with upgraded P160C boosters, enabling increased payload capacity as we continue scaling deployment of our constellation.
https://x.com/NASAArtemis/status/2055323662794793361>POV: You’re coming home after a journey around the Moon. Before reentering Earth’s atmosphere at the end of Artemis II, the Orion spacecraft’s crew module — carrying the astronauts — separated from the service module that provided propulsion and power throughout the mission.
>>16976619Elon is gonna be the first infinitizaire
>>16976642Shiny!
>>16976642Every time I do this in KSP the decoupler changes where I wanna land, not by much but enough to miss the launchpad.
>>16976651are you black by any chance?
>>16976652Hey not cool brah
>>16976651you can change the decouple force in the VAB
Juno new origins won ksp its outdated
>>16976652yes, this is a picture of me.you got a problem with that?
>>16976663Ayyy yooooo :boner:
>>16976642>POVAm I a solar panel?
>>16976642its just that easy in command module detachery
Imagine what this nigga saw at Skunk Works
>>16976702damn, being NASA admin has some sweet bennies
Isar Spectrum status?
>>16976702
>>16976708COP(e)V-ing
>>16976702mens fashion is so dreary
https://www.reuters.com/world/spacex-accelerates-ipo-timeline-targets-june-11-pricing-nasdaq-2026-05-15/
>>16976716hmm I wonder why they are suddenly rushing the IPO
>>16976718it says right there, the SEC review was quicker than expected
>>16976719somehow I missed that line. though they said it was only partly responsible
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/2055363710026231918>Atlas V received its payload of 29 satellites for the next United Launch Alliance mission to space for Amazon. The Leo 7 launch enables expansion of the Amazon Leo constellation to provide fast, reliable internet to communities around the world. The launch is planned for Friday, May 29, pending range approval. The 29-minute window opens at 12:27 p.m. EDT.
https://x.com/_MaxQ_/status/2055348040475517036
>>16976729https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/2055355456600568313
>>16976727Man, ULA needs to just go out of business. Delta and Atlas had a good run but this is just a humiliation ritual at this point
They should pick Phlegra Montes as the human base site because the sun rises over the mountains and it looks cool. Imagine the photos.
>>16976735"mountains"grim. maybe we should not colonize mars actually. earth is nicer
>>16976737We have slim pickings, not like we can do a surface Venus colony
>>16976732Nice fanfic, anyway.
>>16976739why not? Build a space elevator attached to your colony with radiators in space
>>16976715vgh! we mvst retvrn!
Why the fuck try to find life if its gonna be gay bacteria?
>>16976747gay bacteria don't reproduce anon, they'll be straight bacteria
>>16976750bacteria are gay as hell. find one straight bacteria.
bacteria move zesty as shit... on god
Viruses are just trans bacteria
>>16976751
>/sfg/ goons to bacteria
now find one straight shota bacteria
>>16976755show their dicks and pum pums
https://www.l3harris.com/newsroom/editorial/2026/05/getting-space-nuclear-power-game-next-generation-technology>L3Harris Technologies has finalized the design of a next-generation nuclear-based power source for future NASA deep space missions, marking a crucial advancement in spacecraft power technology. The Next-Generation Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator cleared its critical design review on April 2, 2026, paving the way for a new era of outer solar system exploration. Flight units could power NASA deep space probes starting in the early 2030s, including a proposed Uranus orbiter that would use two Next Gen RTGs for power and for keeping its temperature-sensitive components warm enough to operate in the frigid environment of the outer solar system. This dual-purpose capability makes RTGs indispensable for such missions.>The Next Gen RTG is an evolution of the general-purpose heat source RTGs that supplied power to NASA’s Cassini Saturn orbiter and, more recently, New Horizons probe, which carried out a Pluto flyby in 2015 and is now exploring the frozen wonders of the Kuiper Belt. Unlike the L3Harris-built Multi-Mission RTGs currently powering NASA's Curiosity and Perseverance Mars rovers, the Next Gen RTGs are optimized for spacecraft operating in the vacuum of space rather than on the surface of a planet.>The U.S. Department of Energy’s Idaho National Laboratory tapped L3Harris in 2021 to re-establish the key technologies from the heritage system and update the design in response to growing interest in new deep space missions. The contract is expected to end in 2027 with a production readiness review to verify that the next-generation system can be built using the materials and components that have been re-established.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2055394309063532712>T-1 hour until today’s Falcon 9 launch of the CRS-34 mission to the International Space Station. Weather is 95% favorable. The live mission webcast will begin ~20 minutes ahead of liftoffhttps://x.com/i/broadcasts/1AxRnawMpzVxl
>>16976762I don’t know much about L3, but Harris is just a good case of autism since the 1800s. Lithographic printing, and they just kept expanding and growing in emergent microwaves and computer processing markets, and throwing millions and millions into r&d
>>16976763I like those odds
>>16976763The betsy ross 13 rounded star flag is better than the 50-state flag we currently have
>>16976762> tapped L3Harris in 2021 to re-establish the key technologies from the heritage systemhmmm, I'm skeptical but love to be proven wrong. You guys have NO idea what it took just to restart Stinger missile production for Ukraine...
>>16976467I implore you to kill yourself. I watched that shit happen. You scum will turn the other way and pretend it simply didn't exist but I and everyone else in this general watched it for four years.
>>16976774grim
>investors are getting scammed by perpetual motion machineshttps://arstechnica.com/science/2026/05/casimir-force-co-opted-to-generate-free-energy-midichlorians-not-included/ok we seriously need to start coming up with scam powerpoints to become billionaires too
>>16976729>>16976730that's me when i saw this image >>16976663
>>16976763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgsg7NAxAvkT-30:00
>>16976741it's not a fanfic though, they're such a husk that even though they're selling out at this point, nobody even wants to buy them for the price they're asking. there's a reason tory left, he tried to convince the owners of ULA that they needed to pursue at least some amount of reusability to maintain relevance but wasn't able to get through to them, he saw the writing on the wall.
>>16976758best i can do is a loli bacteria.
>>16976774i agree, i'm not even that much of a right winger and i still remember the ridiculous amount of absolute horseshit red tape and litigation/lawfare spacex had thrown at it before trump was inaugurated. a good example was that nigger judge trying a case against spacex for not hiring diverse enough when this is made pretty much impossible by ITAR requirements.
IIIIIIIIMMMMMMSOOOOOOOOOTIREDDDDDDDDOFFFFFFFALCON NINEEEEEEEEEEPLEASE GIVE ME SOMETHING ELSEI'LL EVEN TAKE A FALCON 1
>>16976440>>16976446what the fuck is this map
>>16975658Yeah seems doable
launch
starship countdown is live https://www.spacex.com
f9 rtls landing complete
>>16976795who cares?
>>16976787Best I can do is a long March 8 launching sometime on Sunday or Vega-C on Monday. Probably will have a stream for LM-8, will definitely have a stream for Vega.
>>16976796real niggas care
wtf are those sparkles
>>16976797Long march 9 wen?
>>16976800NET 2030. They just put out the bid request for the launch complex last month, and that's going to be complicated by having to include a lot of rocket fabrication on-site.
Is SpaceX launch an soon?
>>16976805Fuagck
>>16976798like your dad
>>16976774We were all there honey, now take a deep breath. We were all there when Musk claimed the government was stopping him from launching when the OLM 1 was still a giant crater, we were all there when he finally got the launch lisence then wasnt ready to launch for another 3 weeks. But tell me more about how the government delayed the mexican welders from fixing OLM 1 honey.
>>16976811Wow wow too far bro
Why do dogs ears back mean submission yet cat ears back means i mma fuck u up?
Its not happening, is it?
>>169768242028 lol no one will remember artemis 2 by then
>>16976817jews.
>>16975828It’s a meme anyway since each gorillion dollar orbital missile battery satellite can be popped by a tiny missile launching a 1kg interceptor and you just make a big fleet of these. Kinetic missile interception has always and will always be a meme until lasers become viable. You can hard counter golden dome for a fraction of its cost and with no need for the insane upkeep costs of golden dome. Absolute end of an empire boondoggle type shit.
>>16976824The limiting factor is now HLS and Suits. I don’t think it’s fare to necessarily blame SpaceX and BO and Axiom. Though if they do slip and make the USA miss a 2030-or-earlier return, we will have to start pointing fingers at them. But everything was procured super late and SLS had a near-20 year head start and for better or for worse is at least currently in the position to ramp up enough output to churn out 2 or 3 more stacks before 2030 (granted they now need to do a Centaur V integration from the ground up but they literally have 2 or 3 years to do this)If Musk can get v3 to work and rapidly get to a lunar landing demo then everything is okay.If Bozos can get his demo to work this year or at least early next year the ehh maybe they’ll be on to something. But that is almost as tall of an order as expecting SS to work perfectly; plus they seem to have upper stage reliability issues now.Axiom? They’re taking a while. But the said they’re confident that they’ll be ready for Artemis III. If not the they better fucking have it within the year for ISS testing and be ready for a lunar landing
>>16976844The funniest outcome is v3 HLS and Axiom Suits somehow miraculously being ready in time for ShartyIV, but SLS having issues integrating with Centaur V. I think spacegoy5 might literally just die an hero
>>16976845Try typing that again but make it sound like you have real human friends you interact with.
>>16976844>If Musk can get v3 to work and rapidly get to a lunar landing demo then everything is okay.This is the biggest pipe dream in the Artemis program, even more than the idiotic moon base. Starship hasn't demonstrated its ability to work as intended once, much less multiple times in succession within a tight window. Without that HLS is DOA. No way A3 is happening before 2028. And with impending budget crisises on the horizon for the next admin, Artemis II is probably as far as the program is going.Oh well. Try again in another 20 years.
>>16976845funniest thing is spaceguy5 is 10x smarter than you.
>>16976846>>16976848
Hot take.Gshock is more of a space watch than the Speedmaster.
>>16976854I AGREE. Casios are fucking based
Hot take.I would be a better man if my dad didn't leave.
hot takeI'm a khv on /sfg/ and I'm about to turn 30. help
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2055368195440046084
>>16976861grim
>>16976863>Missouri crawfish boilYou know that shit was ASS. Gotta go to the Louisiana facility to get the real deal
>>16976861Aren't we all. /sfg/ is a concentration of the most bizzare freaks of nature who are too socially outcast to take part in spaceflight forums on a normal website.
>>16976868Speak for yourself i am 22 yo sigma that got into sfg and rockets in 2020 i am not an engenier or scientistI am studying data science and only recently learned to rendevouz in kspAlso a normal sfg forum doesnt exist
>>16976869>got into sfg and rockets in 2020oh, so that's why the general with a special interest in spaceflight has such an incredible amnesia to recent history, youw erent here for it! SAD!
>>16976870Bro i wouldnt call before 2020 recent
>>169768712017 is recent2016 was ye days of olde
>>16976872Mmm ill take it if we do 2018 and make 2 eras bfh and afh, before falcon heavy and after falcon heavyAlso we are 3.5 years away from 2030
>>16976871If you got into SpaceX after they had already landed Falcon 9 you are a newfag. 2020 is giga new. You've only ever known Starship. It's like becoming a Halo fan long after Bungie stopped making the games.
>>169768722016 was the all time peak. The MCT reveal was so cool. Shocking that it has been a decade, and Mars feels further away than it did back then.
>>16976874I was too young dumbass even if i was exposed to rockets that young i would of understood shiet
>>16976876It was all pipe dreams and scams in the end.
>>16976878What are you like 15?
>>16976878sounds like a you problem jackass
>>16976880I am 22 and falcon 9 first landed 11 years agoI got into rockets at 16
My interest in spaceflight was reignited by pic related.
>>16976885Based
>>16976885Respectable but I still look down on FH test demo fagst. grew up obsessed with Shuttle and the promise of Orion and Constellation
>>16976887Late shuttle years were bleak, felt like we were miles from anywhere. I guess we still are but the perception has changed due to a certain conman.
>>16976887My interest was originally killed by the death of the shuttle program. I still remember watching Atlantis land for the last time. I understand why now, but it was really bad for youth morale to not have any American launch systems waiting in the wings. It took nearly a decade to get from Atlantis to Bobndoug.
>>16976891I was hyped for Constellation.There was nothing else to look forwards to.
>>16976891Crazy how retarded the shuttle replacement schemes were. I will never know why they kept attempting to do SSTO. >>16976893Constellation was the last time NASA had a real program. Artemis is a bullshit. All it has done is fly the tiny fraction of Constellation hardware which was mandated by congres to be finished. It has developed nothing and has no real momentum like Constellation. Everyone knows Artemis is not real and you can feel it.
>>16976893Asteroid Redirect felt so close and real
>>16976895The problem, obviously, is that the only thing ever set-in-stone was just keeping the jobs online. The end goals themselves didn’t really matter. So the last ~25 years have just been vague bullshit
>>16976896At least we got DART. That was neat, briefly.
>>16976898My new obsession is Dragonfly and DAVINCI. And we won’t see these fruits for a long, long time
>>16976896Yeah DART was based.>>16976893Constellation could’ve been great, but it was cancelled before shuttle had ended. American spaceflight was fully reliant upon JPL probes and commercial space for hype from 2010 up to 2020. We had a nearly full decade of absolutely nothing manned. People need to go to space for there to be hope. No manned missions = your grug class begins to believe in retarded shit like flat earth.
>>16976891No, little anon was right. Not having anything ready was RETARDED. 40 years and God knows how many millions and their solution was begging the vatniks to give us a ride on shuttle. JPL should have been shuttered as a punishment for such a retarded decision.>>16976895Constellation was retarded too. Just a shuttle recycling program. What a joke. 60 years after the end of apollo and the moronic idea of stopping development on the Saturn family for a space plane still haunts us. Maybe America just isn't meant for space. We dont seem to be very good at it.
>>16976902*on soyuzYou get the idea anyway
>>16976901>Constellation could’ve been great, but it was cancelled before shuttle had ended. American spaceflight was fully reliant upon JPL probes and commercial space for hype from 2010 up to 2020. We had a nearly full decade of absolutely nothing manned. People need to go to space for there to be hope. No manned missions = your grug class begins to believe in retarded shit like flat earth.I feel the same way anon, when there is hope for the future nihilism takes a backseat. No future=nobody cares anymore.
Anybody got the /sfg/ history poast?
will Blorgin overtake ULA this year?
>>16976915
pick out the Mars program name:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_the_Greek_godsfor the moon we've used up Apollo and Artemis
>>16976617>Graphite Epoxy Motor (GEM)these nozzles that tend to blow apart they aren't made of plastic too are they? If so I have a suggestion to make
>>16976935What about ares since its literally mars?
>>16976812Yeah no, what the other guy said was right, and this is a bad post and will be ignored because it is wrong.
>>16976817Cat ears back means “i’m going to claw you if you try to pet me again, anon. Cats usually dont do that unless they’re very stressed.
>>16976830And it’s even easier to fit the satellite with interceptors that will destroy these shitty ASATs lmao.
>>16976846>>16976848Spaceguy5 is a loser who is always wrong and so are people who shill for him.
>>16976870Wait, so people insisting that they always thought falcon 9 reuse would work and that spacex never did anything difficult were all just zoomers who weren’t around back when 1st stage propulsive reuse was considered literally impossible and you were laughed out of the room for even suggesting it?
>>16976871>zoomers unironically think that 2015 was a long time agoWe’re getting old bros.
>>16976880Stop bullying him, he’s the next generation of spaceflight autist.
>>16976879It wasn’t and you’re a fucking retard lol, starship is succeeding, how many goalposts are you going to move before you do the smart thing and give up?
>>16976890>i-it’s a con!So the giant functional starship that can go into orbit is fake? Is it made of cardboard?>b-but7.4 km/s7.8 km/sStarship is orbital.
>>16976948Have you never played with a cat? When they pause look with ears back then jump attack?
>>16976955>succeeding Fucked up the on contract it go lt awardCan't get both stages to complete their missions at the same time awardScammed nasa into betting artemis on a dead end award
>>16976960Artemis was always a dead end. SpaceX only made starship as a marketing plot for its commercial operations, and its very successful at selling more slots for corporate trash getting sent to LEO.China will own the moon because America never actually cared to run its programs right. Roscosmos will own LEO as well adter nasa's budget is cut into oblivion. Americans just cant into space.
>>16976953It was 11 years ago and i was 11 in 2015 yeah its been a while>>16976954I am the current generation sigma
>>16976935Aria
>>16976962China needs to do something about its heavy lift capabilities. Idk why propulsion and semiconductor technologies seems to elude them :(
Musk confirms that SpaceX is a giant scam.
>>16976960pretending to be retarded is the ultimate admission of failure in life anon, i will keep being genuine and you will keep thinking you're smart for pretending to be a retard.
>>16976962>roscosmos will ownHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>16976967>angry stockbro gets mad when people have genuine motivations and don't solely chase short term profit marginsKEK.it's actually the opposite of a scam for this very reason, the way most companies like boeing are run these days are the ways actual scams work, burning everything for short term profit.
>>16976845>ShartyIVWhat?
>>16976980it's a zoomer reddit wojak meme.
>>16976874I was in high school when I excitedly showed my dad the grasshopper video in the living room. It feels so long ago now.
>>16976982i had a very young childhood fascination with spaceflight from books that my dad gave me and then forgot about it for years because nothing new was happening. i vaguely heard about the falcon landing in 2015 but 2017 was when i started keeping track of it again and in 2018 i got really invested watching spacex slowly but surely humiliate the rest of the industry and show what can be done when you actually bother to innovate and invest in R&D. i still consider myself a newfag, it's chilling to imagine there's teenagers in this general that have not watched the falcon heavy test live. these kids really grew up with re-useable first stages being a thing and don't remember a time before that when it was considered literally completely impossible.
>>16976980He's styling "Artemis IV" as "Shartemis IV", no doubt as some sort of joke.
>>16976976Rosatom proposes joint Mars mission with SpaceX using its mW class plasma engine reaching exhaust velocity of 100km/s!
>>16976988that's kind of cute, they should try to not fuck up getting a probe to the moon first though.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXBets/spacex investors subreddit...as expected they hate Elon, hate mars, and hate starship. they want all 3 of them gone yesterday.
>>16976992many of them are probably bagholders from the teslaQ groups, they've basically built an eternal hate cult of anything elon related because they shorted a stock and lost a bunch of money in their dumb gambling game.
>>16976993There's a lot of money to be made just buying puts on space stocks even if you think they're gonna go up (which is likely the case) the swings either way are going to be huge. t. wsbtard
>>16976993i would laugh my ass off if a similar scenario happened with spacex, please god it would be so fucking funny.
Is it called "docking" or "berthing"?
>>16976935Artemis 2 (Not to be confused with Artemis II)
>>16976999Those are two different things. Docking is rendezvous and active attachment.Berthing is rendezvous and capture with an arm that attaches you
>>16976955>starship is succeedingHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAmay we see it?
>flight 12 NET may 19th>ipo NET june 12ththat's a 24 day window to launch starship
>>16977009you'd need to have eyes and a functioning brain first, you don't have those.
>>16976942has to be a woman's name chud
>>16976952A great many of them yes. It's a two way street. The anti musk clowns who handwave away the incredible feat of 1st stage propulsive recovery, and likewise the pro Musk goons who are not sufficiently skeptical about Starship becuase they werent here for his littany of promises which didn't come true. Anyone who got into SpaceX before they promised Falcon launches to Mars every window once reuse made it affordable. They never did that and then promised with with Falcon heavy, which never happened. Patterns of past performance indicate Starship will be no different.
>>16976967this assumes Mars won't be able to make moneyowning real estate on a mars colony is going to be worth something, providing services to the colonists is going to be worth somethingeventually a mostly self-sustaining market will form on the mars colony
>>16977013what happens to ipo if flight 12 explodes on the pad
>>16976995its going to be very volatile like Tesla stock, so there will be plenty of people making and losing money shorting it (and eventually if there is a big step change, lets say when orbital datacenters start showing revenue and positive margin), then a lot of people will be burnedI expect it to behave similarly to Tesla basically and for much of the same reasons, big promises with long dev/investment cycles before a project starts bringing fruit, but if one does start bringing fruit its so big that the stock gets re-rated
>>16977024postponed to after net launch for some obscure bs technicality. The launch WILL happen before IPO because a sucessful launch is the marketing ploy to make the IPO go well. Musk will 100% deliver a speech after a fully sucessful flight and hype up the plans for SpaceX to become the biggest company ever (Mars rhetoric toned down), then everybody will clap. Notice all the rhetoric about V3 being the finalised design? it is so that when the launch is done investors will think SpaceX is on a clear path to the line go up plans. In reality we all know V3 is a prototype. V3 may be the first series where they recover and study orbiters, but V5 at the earliest is the settled design.
>>16977023Mars will never make money in our lifetimes. You seriously underestimate the difficulty by leagues.Even if it was free to teleport from Earth to Mars it would not be profitable to go there.
>>16977025>>16976995you can see the long channels with a lot of volatility and then "sudden" re-ratings with Tesla from a logarithmic chart, Tesla has 3 or 4 of these multi-year channelsyou could see SpaceX behave similarly bouncing around the IPO price, kept up (very high PE) by the promise of orbital datacenters, like Tesla is kept up by the promise of robotaxis and Optimus
>>16977027in fact the launch on the 19th just before the IPO prospectus goes public on the 20th and the roadshow starts lines up pretty wellbasically a good way to kick off the thing, then 2-3 week roadshows before the IPO on the 12th
solar freaking wings
>>16977033This is simultaneously extremely cool and extremely goofy looking at the same time.
>>16977033You can instantly clock this as fake. Why build a whole cybertruck ripoff body for a rover which is going to a place with no air or rain? and why the hell does it have a grill, does this thing breathe lunar dust?
>>16977032good point. I guess 19th is locked in then and Elon will go demon mode if it gets scrubbed. Funniest outcome would be launch abort a second before liftoff where the do the quick shutdown and blow all of superheavys engines again. In some ways this is the highest pressure launch ever due to that IPO.
>>16977037idk why its like that but it doesnt seem fake. its one company out of multiple that are competing for lunar rover contracts.
>>16977041Ok, charitable take is that the bodywork is to make it look good to normies at a presentation, similar to how Axiom gives absolutely retarded liveries to their suits at expos, so fair enough.
>>16976874I got into SpaceX with Starship Flight 5. I'm literally an amoeba.
>>16977037It has an internal combustion engine, chud. The solar panels just power the radio
>>16977049>tfw you will never drive a ford mustang on the moon by hooking the air intake up to a pressurized tube of nitrogen+oxygenwhy live?
>>16977039probably why they have been so cautious this time (even beyond the test explosions), ground testing much more than previously before the launch
>>16976918Normally, this would be an easy win for Blue Origin, but ULA still has a stock of reliable Atlas Vs, a customer that can mass produce max weight payloads to launch on them, and the ability to get those payloads into orbit as quickly as they can be shipped to the cape. If ULA keeps setting payload records with the Atlas V 551 Blue might have to wait until next year
>>16977058how many atlas rockets do they have left anyway? didn't they stop manufacturing in favour of vulcan a while ago?
https://x.com/SegerYU/status/2055559384978411903>This morning, the SZ-23 spacecraft and CZ-2F/G Y23 launch vehicle combination were vertically transported to the launch area of the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center.
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/2055553061167550581>Shenzhou-23 is getting ready at the launch pad. The mission patch hints there will be one crew member from Hong Kong.
>>16977059Unless Starliner gets canceled and Amazon buys out those spare vehicles, there are just two Atlas Vs left for Leo launches. The Atlas V production line at Decatur was officially closed down and converted over to Vulcan production back in 2024.
https://x.com/CarstensPete/status/2055431196566323289>Entry burn of CRS-34 from 25 miles away. Maximum focal length.
>>16977014back to fifth grade with you, lil bro.
>>16977063>>16977061>>16977060Based news sharer, thank you anon
>>16976956Mars in 2 more weks buddy?
>>16976956>functionalcan you show us the functions?>that can go into orbitagain, feel free to show me all the orbits starship has achieved>i-it's orbital I SWEARlolstarship has not been orbitalstarship won't even go orbital next flightor the one after thatYOU. LOST.
how these people dont get bored of repeating the same retarded points over and over again i'll never really understand. its definitely a kind of illness
>>16977068>n-nosorry you're angry about being wrong, some day you may grow out of that habit.
>>16977074They're children
>>16977071>another strawman buddythat's the only thing we get out of you, so sadly yes. it's why you don't really get taken seriously.
>>16977063The ever reliable green TEA-TEB burst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFRWj2Kcsbc
>>16977072>feel free to show me all the orbits starship has achievedevery flight where it reached orbital velocity, silly.>i-it's orbital i swearwho are you quoting? i didn't say that.i said:>starship is orbitalas a statement of fact, because it is, and you have no response other than to angrily cope with it.
>>16977080/sfg/ is a hivemind, i was just watching this.
>>16977081Just ignore him, he's the only one who thinks he's funny.
>>16977083i blame millenial parents giving their kids unfettered internet access but zero actual attention and care. these kids have convinced themselves that pretending to be a retard is clever and funny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kordylewski_cloud
>>16977074I know. Like after all these years and they are still defending everything Musk does. Laughable if it werent so sad.
>>16977088buy an ad.
>>16977090what?
>>16977081>every flight where it reached orbital velocityso no flights? see, was that so hard to admit?>angrily cope with it.>grrrr I'm angry and coping that starship is a failure grrr rawrMuskrats. Not even once.
you do realize that is a troll right
huh? wasn't starship supposed to launch yesterday? what happened?
>>16977094new date is Tuesday
>>16977082fucking managers
>>16977080>what went wrongit blew up? what kind of retarded question is this
>>16977102low-quality post
>>16977092pretending to be retarded like you are is a mental illness.
>>16977119being retarded like you are is a developmental disorder.
>>16977123i'm not retardedi'm 1: rightand 2: genuinetwo things you are not capable of being, you are mentally ill and poisoned by irony.you pretend to be retarded for attention and call it "trolling".
>>16977125you're a genuine retard, I'll give you that.
I'll just pretend the retard doesn't exist
>>16977126>n-no you're retardedi get that you're getting angry because your bait isn't working, but you really need to calm down.pretending to be retarded is very sad, you need to stop doing it.>b-but you responded!and yet your bait isn't working, the only thing i'm doing is laying focus to the very sad fact that you set for ours behind a computer screen pretending to be a moron, because you're too dumb to have fun gaming sessions or play sports or otherwise have real, meaningful interactions with other people.
Will you be lucid enough at 90 to produce an article of this level of autism in your field? https://www.americasuncommonsense.com/1-apollo-17-diary-of-the-12th-man/c-chapters-10-18/chapter-13-history-in-the-dust-contents/a-section-1/
uh oh melty
>>16977133the pretend-retard is most certainly having a melty, idk why he thinks that pretending to be a retard makes him look cool.
>>16976642ZDUD
>>16977134>xe says as xe's pretending to be a retardso much for being genuine LMAO
>>16977137>n-no uoops, i broke him.>so much for being genuinei am indeed genuine, honest in my behaviour, and unlike you, not retarded.you really gotta learn that this is not how social interaction works, kid, or you're gonna have a very hard life.
>>16977141damn, lil bro is absolutely SEETHINGmuskrats are getting kinda mindbroken recently tbH
>>16977142>n-no ustill here, still genuine, and you're still angry that nothing you're trying is working, i really feel bad for you, your parents did a shit job and now you're reduced to this in order to get any amount of human interaction.
>>16977143keep going, I'm sure you're gonna own me any day now, lil bro.
every fucking day it's this same 16 year old loser freaking out at the slightest hint of nuanced takes on Musk.
GET THE FUCK IN HERE!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlr45oWhP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlr45oWhP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlr45oWhP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlr45oWhP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlr45oWhP4New KikePlanet just dropped!
>>16977144i'm not owning anything, i'm watching you humiliate yourself thinking that pretending to be a retard and "baiting" is respectable behaviour, it was never considered cool or clever to do this, not even by 4chan standards, neither today nor 20 years ago there is a reason you don't like to call it "pretending to be retarded" even though that's what it is, because it's fucking embarrassing, a grown man who sits and acts like an idiot with idiot opinions because he doesn't know how to say hi or ask interesting questions is just a failure, and you want to avoid thinking about that as much as possible, which is why you're doubling down.>>16977145>nuanced takeshe has no takes, he doesn't believe in anything he's saying, he literally only seeks the warmth that his parents would never give him in a very depressing, abstract way. if he's really being genuine with the genuinely deranged opinion that orbital velocity isn't orbital velocity, then he's in a far worse place than what i have just described, but i don't think he is.
didn't read thattry again, sperg
>>16977148noooo anon you can't be genuine and honest, you have to layer everything you say in a thick layer irony, earnest discussion is not allowed on the nu-internet.
>>16977148>orbital velocity isn't orbital velocityobjectively the starship test flights have not reached orbital velocity. They got close to it, but not all the way. Why is that such a heresy to say?
this discussion doesn't even matter since starship will be launching useful payload mass into Orbit in like 3 months
>>16977150>earnest discussion>look inside>it's elonwankthe days of "earnest" /sfg/ are long gone. Get over it.
>>16977149you did, and it made you mad lol, you will keep responding because you think you're good at hiding your emotions, you're really not.>>16977152they objectively reached orbital velocity, the difference is so miniscule that bringing it up as a genuine point against starship's ability to be orbital is completely silly and illogical.
>>16977153you said that 3 months ago!
>>16977155>the difference is so miniscule>he thinks m/s is the only relevant definition for an orbit capable vesselOkay, I'm starting to believe that Musk simps are all midwits.
>>16977147>36 planets in the solar system in his scheme This is the bad kind of autism
>>16977154>being in touch with reality is elonwankit isn't, you know this, you're aware of this, and you intentionally pretend like you're on some earnest anti-musk crusade because you don't know how to say:>hey guys, what do you think that reactor mission's chances of success areor>i wonder what version of starship will be the first to become crew-ratedor any other genuine attempt at discussion.you instead pretend to be retarded because for mentally ill, poorly adjusted people like yourself, doing anything else is too hard.
>>16977157>NOOOOO ORBIT IS NOT ORBIT ORBIT IS NOT ORBITso which is it then, you're pretending to be retarded or you're genuinely so deranged that you've written off the entirety of /sfg/ as "muskland" because you got bullied for a stupid opinion in the past, and think this gives you justification to shit the place up "anyway".
>>16977155>>16977159>being autistically deluded is elonwankyes, that's what I said, lil bro.
>>16977161>*retarded strawman* is elonwanktoo bad your retarded strawman isn't real, sorry.
you need to stop
>>16977160Dude, calm down. It's not healthy being this obsessed. Try thinking about cool rockets, yeah?
>>16977164he really does, i don't know what he thought he would accomplish by pretending to be a retard and screeching the same shit over and over again, just makes him look like an actual retard.some people just really can't handle the internet, dude probably thought that everyone he's pretended to be retarded at in the past thought he was super clever as well.
>>16977152A reminder that anyone trying to hold SpaceX's intentionally not circularizing Starships orbit against them is either a Thunderfoot tier clueless moron or is someone being deliberately deceitful..
>>16977166>muskrat pretends to be retarded>>16977167>intentionallynow tell me, why are they INTENTIONALLY not circularizing?
>>16977165>n-no you're obsessedi'm pretty content with my life, i'm not obsessed about anything, you on the other hand, are not, and your constant attempts to project this onto me only get more desperate as time goes by.>try thinking about cool rocketsi'm actually playing KSP while i watch you flail about, so don't worry about me, worry about yourself, your inability to be genuine is a mental disorder.
>>16977169>I'm content>xe says as xe has another schizo melty post your rocket, lil bro.
>>16977168>muskrat pretends to be retardedno, you are pretending to be retarded.i am not a muskrat, you know this, but you're so incredibly retarded that you think getting a response from me saying so is some sort of victory, when it's just you trying to screech at a man who is calmly talking back to you.you will never be able to have genuine human interactions.
>>16977167Nobody is claiming they accidentally didnt reach orbit. They didn't reach orbit because Starship has not demonstrated the necessary reliability. It would have already produced half a dozen orbital debris fields if it was allowed to orbit. Or do you disagree with that?
>>16977170>n-nothat was the best response you could come up with, that's embarrassing. you know, for someone who's sole method of human connection is pretending to be a retard, you sure are bad at actually riling people up, you suck at trolling, dude, everyone is just calmly talking back and watching you twist yourself into evermore knots trying to avoid the reality that you've steered yourself into.
>>16977171>>16977173keep malding, lil bro.still waiting for that rocket btw
>>16977153
>>16977172>I-IT WOULD HAVEdo you have any proof that this would happen? i don't think you do. starship has attitude control and it has done in-space relights on multiple occassions, it is capable of orbit, but there are other things in the design that they'd rather test and those do not require orbit yet.>h-haha i didn't mean anything i was saying i was just pretending to be retarded againdon't care, sorry, i will keep being genuine and you, in your twisted view of the world, will keep seeing this as a weakness.
>>16977178>do you have any proof that this would happen?are you such a newfag that you genuinelly werent here for the test flights? we all saw many explosive engine failures and many times where the attitude control failed. I think you are the troll rather than the other guy.
>>16977178>it has done in-space explosions on multiple occassions[sic]yes we know, ESL muskrat
why are you all replying to a troll
>>16977182what else is there to do but bait and be baited?
>>16977168>now tell me, why are they INTENTIONALLY not circularizing?Because they don't need to at this point of dev when the primary purpose is the reentry and soft landing.Now it is your turn. Which is more difficult to achieve, circularizing your orbit or soft landing from orbital velocity?
>>16977180>B-BUT WHAT ABOUT BACK WHEN IT WASN'T ORBIT CAPABLE YETnewfag, that's not what we were talking about, we're talking about right now.starship is orbitalit reaches orbital speeds with fuel to spare and chooses not to circularizeit has demonstrated the ability to circularize with in-space raptor relightsit has attitude control that functions properly.>n-no you're the troll not meyou're trying way too hard here.
starship hasn't ever failed in a mission where a full orbit was the goal. :)
>>16977172>Starship just explodesHmm yes you appear to fit what >>16977167 described.
>>16977181i really do pity you, must suck for you, being too retarded to actually just say:>hi, these are my opinions, i mean them, good day.your parents really did fail you.>>16977182why do you think i'm supposed to respect the idea that openly mocking someone who pretends to be a retard is "being trolled"pretending to be retarded was relentlessly mocked way back when, it should be done today as well.
>>16977180Is this the anon who used to seethe about his fictionally low Raptor reliability?
stop replying to your own posts
member raptor honks? green flames? 300hz? doomers were shit flinging here then too
>>16977190probably, i remember when the goalpost was still>noooo you can't fire 33 engines on one booster the N1 failed guise.that's genuinely the level of intelligence these people operate on.you never hear that talking point anymore, it's now obsolete.when spacex puts it's first payload into orbit, this talking point will become obsolete, and then they'll have to backpedal to a whole new goalpost in order to not look like even bigger retards.
>>16977192>300hzI completely forgot about that schizo cope.
>>16977184landing WAS harder, now orbit IS harder. Because spacex for some reason did not try to practice for the job that rockets are actually meant for. You know, putting stuff into space. So only now are they really going to start the real testing of starship, instead of the landing demo it was up until now. Meaning a bunch of new and wild failure modes that will take months to fix, if not a whole new redesign.your turn. Why would spacex decide to not stress test the rocket against real world conditions during tests where they presumably attempt to test the rocket against real world conditions?>>16977188>>16977193you were raped as a child, we know. I hope your parents are locked up for a long time, lil bro.
why doesn't anyone else in spaceflight get mocked for intentionally testing the re-entry profile of their massive, 9 meter diameter, 120 meter tall, fully re-useable spacecraft design?oh right, nobody else is building one, they're all intentionally throwing their rockets into the ocean, the whole thing. only a very small amount of players are even in the early stages of recovering the booster, let alone the whole rocket.
>>16977192zoom out. they were right. Raptor v3 is the first version of raptor even theoretically capable of doing Lunar HLS. 3 YEARS after they started the full scale starship test flights.
>>16977195retard.
"then they'll claim they never doubted you"
>>16977195you're a pretty bad troll dude
Mars colony in 2 more weeks
>>16977195>landing WAS harderno, it is STILL harder, retard, orbit is a solved problem, there are hundreds of rockets that have achieved orbit, spacex isn't fucking worried about intentionally expending the necessary delta-v to get to orbit.>b-but i'm moving the goalpost againyes, as we just said, very embarrassing, you should stop doing that, it makes you look like a retard.>WAAAAAH WAAAAH ANGRY TO DIE ANGRY TO DIE U WERE RAPEDcry lmao.
>>16977195>"real testing of starship"oh it hasn't been real until now, oh ok. thanks for letting us know.
>>16977195you're really bad at this, i don't know if pretending to be retarded is your cover for being an actual retard with actual retard opinions, or if you're pretending to have genuinely retarded opinions because that's your only way of interacting with people, but it's pretty sad either way.
>>16977196based and correct take.
kek he really bit that one
>>16977196>fully re-useablemay we see it lmao>spacecraftmay we see it LMAO
/sfg/s o-ring is burned through
>>16977203I wish it werent real. If anybody had said they would be on IFT 12 moving onward to IFT 13 and havent proven orbit yet they would have been called a deluded ThunderF00t troll. all the ecelebs posted here like Eager sodomite were predicting full orbit by IFT 3 and flawless action after that.
>>16977207are you saying it won't ever work?just curious. which part won't work?they've landed and re-used boosters, they've demonstrated accurate ship landing, and the gazillion raptors all work well.what's wrong?
>>16977210Orbit.
>>16977207>n-noagain, embarrassing>l-lmaoyou're not even pretending to be a pissy overly cocky and upset teenager anymore, you just are one now, these people really dissected the fuck out of you lol.
>>16977211but they've never tried going to orbit. so what evidence do you have.
>>16977212>these peoplekek, cute. Xe thinks xe's fooling anyone.
>>16977211>b-but what about b-back when it wasn't orbit capable>b-but what about when the hopper tests failedand you moved the goalpost back then too, you'll keep moving the goalpost until there is nowhere left to go, all the while, you're already a fucking idiot for setting that dumb goalpost in the first place, just don't do it, it makes you look dumb.
>>16977215>NOOOOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF ME>Y-YOU'RE ALL ONE PERSONkek mr "troll" really can't handle getting surrounded it seems.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024GL109280
>>16977195orbit was never "hard"
What's the point of these?
>>169772131. picrel. They fail even when doing suborbital hops. Will the probability of a new and cool failure mode increase from prolonged stay in orbit? Neither you, nor I, nor spacex knows. Because they haven't tried yet. Now try guessing what will happen when they get around to that... eventually...2. the fact that they haven't tried going to orbit yet, proving they are too insecure about something (possibly picrel happening again)>>16977216>>16977217tldr? keep yapping, lil bro.
>>16977218Earth sweeps up roughly 44 to 100 metric tons of natural cosmic dust and meteoritic material every single day.
Reminder falcon heavy + orion can go to the moon
>>16977220materials for construction, they have literally zero scientific or habitation value, just use them to make orbital habitats.
>>16977221your logic is bizarre.
>>16977221>t-they fail>i-if i keep talking about previous missions that are no longer the standard for what starship is capable of, nobody will noticeeverybody noticed and continues to laugh at your mental breakdown.>they haven't tried going to orbit yet*they haven't circularized an orbit yetbecause they don't need to, as perfecting re-entry is more important to them at the moment and orbit does not serve that mission.>k-keep yappingretarded zoomerspeak, ignored.
>>16977221so you believe that starship will never work? can you just say 'yes' to that or not? because I'm confused as to what you're trying to claim.Will starship never put payload into orbit? how many more flights until they cancel the program and shutter Starbase? if that's not the case, then why are you so angry? are you claiming they are just not being efficient with testing???? what are you trying to sayyyyy
>>16977223except they can not.
>>16977225see >>16977068>>16977226>the standardhalf a year without a (test) launch(explosion)? yeah, starship sure is breaking ground.
>>16977229will flight 12 work in your opinion
>>16977227he isn't trying to claim anything, he's a failed normalfag that doesn't know how to interact with people and doesn't know how to be genuine, pretending to be a retard to get attention is the only way he knows how. he thinks that this feeds some sort of karma meter like on his favourite subreddit, but in reality it just makes him look like a dumbass zoomer that fails at basic conversation and fails to understand that "trolling" involves actual effort and planning, not humiliating yourself by acting like a dunce and flailing about aimlessly.
>>16977229where are the other re-useable upper stage prototypes then, anon, how is spacex failing in comparison to them?oh right, there are none, the shuttle was refurbishable at best and never really became reuseable, the rest of the vehicle wasn't reuseable either, and today their only competition in this category is stoke space, who haven't even gotten off the ground yet.
>>16977228Yes they can retard fuck i wont argue dont reply
>>16977227noyesnoabout tree fiddyyou're confusing me with that other sperg who is really trying to pretend xe hasn't shat xerself from anger. It's fun poking xer.exactly. starship is nowhere near as finished as people like to think, mostly because of that. And I will keep baiting eloncum guzzlers who think otherwise.
>>16977228they actually can send an orion + ESM with slightly less than full fuel load to TLI, the only thing it would require would be a payload adapter that fits to orion. artemis 2 could unironically have been done by a slightly modified falcon heavy.
https://x.com/PhazzeeYeehaw/status/2055692871898943970>Zenk Space's Zhihang-1, which is looking to recover its engine section, is preparing for its debut flight as soon as next month to complete an initial development effort that took just over a year
>>16977235>y-you're trying to confuse mei don't think he is, you do sound really really angry.>n-no I'M POKING N-NOT YOU!no dude, you suck at being a troll, you've been getting poked by everyone in the thread for a while now and you're getting more upset with every post.
>16977233Lunar gateway core weighs about 23 tons and SpaceX went >oopsie we can't lift that actually teeheeso NASA has been trying to shave mass ever since. It's the main reason gateway did not launch. Orion is 26 tons so obviously out of the range of Falcon. The falcon 9 upper stage can only do about 20-22 tons max.
>>16977235>retard humiliates himself in front of everyone in the thread>genuinely has retarded opinions that are wrong>calls it "baiting" when people deservely mock him for these retarded opinions>cries himself to sleep and fantasizes that everyone who mocked him for his retarded opinion is just le musk fanboy.man if you're not pretending to be this retarded that's even sadder.
tick tock-1 + three days, muskratsbetter prepare your cope for when shartslip inevitably gets delayed until next month
>>16977239orion is only 26 tons when fully fueled, it wouldn't be able to get into orbit around the moon, but it would be able to send orion with fuel to TLI.
>>16977224Sorry, no can do. The endangered space mites that inhabit the dust are a protected species. Uh oh. :(
>>16977238>>16977240>Y-Y-YOU HUMILIATED YOURSELFFFFyep I sure have, which is why you keep having unending melties, right? All part of your plan.
>>16977243use electromagnetism to fling the dust into the cold depths of interstellar space, fuck the space mites.
>>16977242learn to read.
>>16977244you did humiliate yourself, yes. good that you're finally honest enough to admit this in writing.>n-no you're having melties not mei'm eating a pizza, playing some KSP and watching you melt down in real time on a second screen, sucks to be you. should've been a genuine person instead kiddo.
>>16977246You fucking retards he is telling you that orion cant orbit but can TLI, gateway had to orbit the moon So fuck you for once and second falcon heavy + orion can go to the moon
>>16977246we weren't talking about falcon 9 doing that though, we were talking about falcon heavy, learn to read.
>>16977247oh noessss the humiliation ahhhh I'm dying.now post your rocket, fatso.
>>16977250>h-hehe i'm actually smug and unbothered you see, which is why i keep replying to you obsessively to prove how smug and unbothered i am.sure sweetheart, now put the fries in the bag.
>>16977252>no rocket pickek, lil bro sucks at babby tier rocketgame
>>16977252>>16977250You're both fags, shut up and post roggets
>>16977248>>16977249Falcon Heavy uses the same upper stage as Falcon 9 lil bro
>>16977253why would i bother screenshotting anything for you? watching you double down on the idea that you'll "win" something if you get me to post a screenshot and keep screeching about it for hours is much more fun, so i think i'll do that.
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K8zt8NzlVo
>>16977255the falcon 9 upper stage uses more fuel just to get into low earth orbit because it doesn't have two sideboosters lil bro.you don't know how rockets work lol.
>>16977256>abloo abloo I don't play the game and just pretended to own youuuuuuYeah. We know.
Will you fags shut the fuck up and post roggets
>>16977259>NOOOOOO PROVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING KSP RIGHT NOWno lol see >>16977256>wekid, you're all alone, you have literally no one, it's the whole reason you're here asking for attention.
>16977258>pretends not to know about structural load limits to win an argument he started on the internet
>>16977260here you go, some starship kino.
>>16977261damn, you're still mad. I commend your dedication, lil bro.
>>16977255How fucking dumb my g, i wont bother anymoreAnyways imagine if falcon heavy didnt reuse the boosters in that case can it make orion moon orbit or still only TLI
>>16977262Already in orbit? Come on broo
>>16977262>pretends to not understand that structural load limits apply to easily modified interstage that requires next to no extra mass.we've had this conversation about falcon heavy before, maybe you weren't around back then.
>>16977264>NOOOOOO YOU'RE MAD NOT MEyou're still responding? i thought you were merely pretending to be retarded anon, what happened to that smug i don't care attitude? sounds to me like you care a great deal, you're very bad at hiding it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-jf6tTKt3Y
>>16977268muskrat dedication is something else. If only your deity was as dedicated to shitship as you are to sucking him off...
>>16977267>easily modified>next to no extra massYet nobody is willing to do it or pay for it! Curious!SpaceX and NASA could use this genius.
>>16977263Sick
>>16977194i have completely forgotten, what was that (or perhaps I wasn't following at that moment)
>rockets are legoswhy are muskrats so retarded today?
>>16977196its mostly cope, when SpaceX starts catching Starships they are going to move the goalpost to the next thing (they aren't reusing it fast enough yet and so on and so on ad infinitum)
>>16977270>too bigNobody wants to land in ze pod again.>too tallWouldn't be a very good or efficient upper stage if it was fat and short.>too complexI have fatigue from "more launches" being considered "complex".It's EE though, so it's probably clickbait.
>raptor 2 will fix everythingImagine falling for this.
>>16977271>mentally ill pretend-retard zoomer has gone into full error loop mode and just keeps repeating his failed attempts to brand everyone who mocks him a muskrathe really is broken, this nigga has blown a gasket.
>>16977273Dude you are strawman maxxingThe point is can falcon heavy take orion to the moon, the answer is yes, thats it there is no more arguing>b-but you have to make the fairing biggerThats what your argument sounds like,Fuck gateway elon problably didnt give a shit about it and nasa cant drop sls for falcon heavy they too pride
>>16977273>yet nobody is willing to do itnot an argument lmao.nobody is willig to use falcon heavy to launch orion on another artemis 2 mission because that would be kind of pointless, it was a hypothetical and the answer to that hypothetical is yes, falcon heavy can do it, why are you getting so upset about this?
>Falcon Heavy crossfeedWell?
>>16977280seriously, falcon 9 launches what, 165 times per year, and these tards think that launching starship like a dozen or so times is a problem lmao.
>>16977270>In this video we’re going to try and figure out if Starship HLS really is a viable option for NASA and SpaceX to get humans back onto the surface of the moon for the Artemis Program. We'll talk why it's so tall, why it uses Methalox instead of hypergolic propellants, explain why it requires 15 or more launches for a single lunar landing and we'll even go over alternate options that could maybe simplify or speed up the process.Everyday astronaut 1h 45min video about starship as a lunar lander
>>16977147I agree with him
>>16977286why is it still floundering after all these years if it's so easy? oh and btw landing was already proved and mastered with F9. What were the 12 shartship test explosions for then?>>16977282>the raped is yapping again
>>16977284So honey, tell the class why the rocket called Falcon Heavy is not capable of putting the Lunar Gateway on TLI?
>>16977291you might not have noticed due to being retarded, but they use different propellants and have a pretty big size difference and the booster landing was already demonstrated on Flight 5Starship re-entry and catch is an entirely different problem
>>16977295wow, so almost like.... F9 and SS are not comparable? Crazy!
>>16977291These two vehicles have essentially nothing in common with each other besides software, that could be carried over. And software was not the reason starship detonated in orbit, poorly designed plumbing was.
Falcon 9 and Starship both have second stage reuse planned.
>>16977291>why is it still flounderingit isn't.>if it's so easyit isn't, spacex just makes orbit look easy.
>>16977296in terms of spacex's ability to rapidly increase flight cadence, yeah, they are.
>>16977301>it isn't.it is>spacex just makes explosions look easy.true
>>16977296>Spaceship B will never succeed despite Spaceship A succeeding fantastically and being made by the same people because…Grasping for straws here
>>16977292because of it's dry mass, try and keep up, lil fella.>>16977303it isn't, sorry, i know you're going to continue to be mad about being wrong about everything and complain about it constantly until some janny inevitably puts you in the timeout corner, but it's really not making your life any easier, is it? maybe just don't sperg out.
>>16977303Why do EDS shills always memoryhole the perfect flight that came after these explosions?
>>16977302>rapidly increase flight cadencewhen was the last """"flight"""" again?>>16977304>"""""same people"""""I bet you're a good sequelslop consooooomer>>16977305>bwah bwah bwah I'm a poopyheadWe. Know.>>16977306you mean THIS perfect flight? lmao
>>16977306because he's pretending to be retardarded for attention, he's getting bullying instead which is why he sounds so aggravated.
>>16977305>because of it's dry massBingo! Which is why it is also unable to put the heavier Orion on the same trajectory.Well done kid!
>>16977296F9 had a relatively long dev period before they could land the boosters but that doesn't automatically transfer to the starship portionbut the launch part itself does transfer a lotyou are mixing things up on purpose and pretending not to understand things
>>16977307>complete mental breakdown of this magnitudekek, this guy is so mad.>we you're all alone, you're one guy, and you have zero friends.
>>16977309nope, an orion with about half fuel load has low enough total mass that it can be sent to TLI by falcon heavy, thanks for showing that you're too retarded to know the difference between dry mass and wet mass, you got bodied.
>>16977308>>16977311>retardardedkek, you're so mad you can't even type anymore>>16977310it's precisely the opposite. Landing software development was made easier by having hundreds of F9 flights under the belt.The same can't be said about size and cadence.
>>16977312that guy really mixed up the total fueled mass and the dry mass of orion + the ESM huh? what a retard lel.
>>16977312>Just don't carry the fuel to get home!Kek. Wtf
>>16977314>n-no YOU'RE MADyou've been screeching at a bunch of people calmly watching you have a mental breakdown for about 6 hours now, and you still haven't realized that doubling down is only making it more humiliating for you.
>>16977312yep you sure owned that freak, lil bro
Calling it. Perfect flight in 3 days
>>16977317>the fuel to get homeit's a free-return trajectory, i know you're a little slow, so i'll repeat it slowly for you: we already knew it does not have the fuel to go into orbit around the moon, the question was whether or not orion could be launched on a TLI trajectory by falcon heavy, the answer was yes, you fumbled really hard trying to say no and made yourself look like an idiot.
/sfg/ geniuses know that Orion doesn't actually need fuel. What other breakthroughs shall come from this general?
Look up FH PAF mass capacity.I await your apology.
>>16977318okay, lil bro. You're so cool and smart! Just don't forget to go to the bathroom, okay?
Estronaut be like>erm I spent two years making a 6.5-hour video over a topic that can be explained in less than ten minutes, why is nobody excited or watching?
>>16977319yep, i did, so bad that he's still desperately pretending to be smug and unbothered while relentlessly replying to every single person who makes fun of him for about six hours straight.>lil' broi'm not the zoomer with zoomzoom brain who isn't capable of being genuine and honest, that's you, you're a child who hasn't figured out that trolling is when you troll people, not when you flail around like a moron and everyone laughs at you.
>>16977323the breakthrough that hypotheticals are hypotheticals and were only meant to be just that, and that getting angry at the hypothetical because you feel like it invalidates your favourite orange rocket is kind of silly.
>>16977325>i-i'm smugjesus, man, if you try any harder to sound not mad your eyes are gonna burst LMAO.
>>16977327>>16977329>t.
>>16977270Is this fag really asserting Starship HLS needs 2 depot refills?
>>16977314the difficulty with starship is not the software
>>16977330see >>16977327>HURRR DURR I'M A RETARD/sfg/: lol fuck off retard>NOOOOOO I WAS MERELY PRETENDING HAHAHAimagine being so bad at trolling that you get bootyblasted in the process of trying to piss other people off for attention, you failed at life dude.
>>16977333checked.
i take it that nothing happened today?
>>16977326Works for CSI Starbase though
>>16977333this loser really pretending to be a whole ass generalpathetic>>16977336nope, two more weeks. Same as usual.
>>16977336some guy who doesn't belong on the board had a meltdown.he's either a retard or someone who thinks pretending to be a retard isn't equally as retarded.got bullied by everyone, is still melting down as we speak.
>>16977336Refugees always attention whore right before a big launch. Nothing new
>>16977338i'm not, you are though, you keep trying to say "we" when nobody agrees with you and you have absolutely no friends to shitpost with you lmao, you're all alone, on a little general, getting bullied because you couldn't figure out how to say hi to people.
>>16977339yeah, you>>16977341>n-nno youWEAKtry again, lil bro
>>16977340dude should just stop repressing his manlust already and get a grindr account.>>16977271this is not the post of a straight man.
>>16977342>NOOO YOU'RE MELTING DOWNno lol>n-no uthat is what you're doing, yes, you can stop trying to project it onto others now, retard-san.
>>16977333>/sfg/: lol fuck off retardyou are one guy freaking the fuck out at every hint of a rational discussion which doesn't glaze Musk. It was funny before but at this point it is tiresome.
Ignoring the bait, do you guys think Flight 13 will actually have a ship chopsticks landing or do you think Elon will blueballs us again and do a repeat of this flight plan?
>>16977345no, other people are making fun of your completely unnecessary meltdown too, see >>16977340calm down and accept that you dug yourself into a really deep hole and that it's probably time for you to take a deep breath and realize that you can't go on like this, you gotta go visit a shrink and he might be able to teach you how socializing works.>screeching and constant strawmanning and false equivalences and general lack of good faith argumentation is "rational discussion which doesn't glaze musk"not how it works, retard-san.>it was funnyyou haven't been laughing the whole time lel, you've been completely manic and hysterically angry the whole time for absolutely no reason because none of your bait is working and everyone keeps calling you what you are and laughing at you.
>>16977347Hasn’t he already said this next flight and the one after it are both the same profile?So in other words, no?
>>16977350now that the new pad is ready and they're working on the next batch of ships in tandem, i think flight cadence will shoot up rapidly.
Let's say the Ship crashes into the tower and explodes, how long would it take to repair it?
>>16977351I would think that, accept Pad A has to be rebuilt to be like Pad B, and I am not sure they are able to efficiently build and test at the same time. I can see us getting stalled really hard for months for construction reasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itxmNtK8D2k
>>169773533 months if the arms or pulley system gets damaged, 6 months if the internal piping or ship quick disconnect gets totaled
i'm thinking that about 95% of mentions of musk's name in this thread at this point are from the EDS guy, this dude is absolutely obsessed with musk, i think he secretly has a crush on him or something.
wtf they stand in the water deluge path
>>16977349you seem genuinelly mentally ill. I am not the big boogeyman you think you are replying to. You have a pattern of going on tirades at the slightest thing.
>>16977363>more projectioni'm not an irony poisoned teenager that keeps bashing his head in against a brick wall when his shitty bait isn't working. that's you, you need a doctor.
good job making the thread complete shit, it will discourage tourists from staying aroundnow just have to keep this up until launch and a few days after
>>16977362It looked like just a mist at first, but as the seconds passed it is crazy how much denser and faster the water started moving around them. Probably the coolest thing anyone has done at starbase in years
>>16977365buddy... I mean if youwant to think this entire threat is centered around you as the hero replying to one big bad troll then I can't stop you. Others can make their conclusions about your mental state.
>>16977368>b-but what about this strawmandude, i get that you’re having trouble dealing with the fact that everyone was bullying you, and that you’re now trying really hard to backpedal, but that’s not going to make your anger and shame go away.
>>16977370Hey, i didn’t do anything, i just did the imageboard version of staring into an autists eyes and watching them freak out. The mentally ill pretend-retard that kept calling everyone a muskrat gets really mad when his baiting is completely bamboozled by a brick wall, ultimately it was his choice to get mad about it, melt down and then try to play it off right now. He could have just not done any of that, it was his choice to cry.
>>16977371must be from the future. its still 16th here.
>>16977371
The fucking schizo must be the same that cant understand that falcon heavy can take orion to the moon
>>16977387that schizo will say this is ai when it's actually fact
>>16977386It was in fact the same guy, same passive aggressive writing style and catchphrases.
I am going to
admit it
>>16977387I wonder if the interstage adapter development would cost on the order of 1.5bil? because that is what it would have to cost for this to be more expensive than SLS
>>16977378not a great translationeven "oops, it's over" would be better
>>16977400Actually yeah 3b + 8 years for the nasa manufactured interstage
curious how /sfg/ are such geniuses!
>>16977387>has enough dV to get to high earth orbit and thats it
The King Speaks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFdNhKZHgAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFdNhKZHgAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFdNhKZHgAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFdNhKZHgAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFdNhKZHgA
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2025/10/31/nasas-orion-space-capsule-is-flaming-garbage/ reminder
>>16977420Fuck you retard you dont know shiet
three days
>>16977421this is so sad. like watching a senile old man speak when he doesnt recognise those around him anymore.
>>16977428how much dV would it have then? even with the wiggle room from the ambiguous upper stage?you dont know? retard.
>>16977431What ambiguous upper stage retarded faggot? Its the same as current falxon heavy13km/s with expendable falcon heavy11km/s with recoverable boosters
>>16977421I would love for QI to be right, but all practical tests have failed
starship is a Skinner box for /sfg/
>>16977435I think you will find they were inconclusive.
>>16977431>>16977420Dunnin kruger maxxin
>>16977387Makes more sense to BONG rip it
>>16977336>i take it that nothing happened today?EE put out a shockingly sloppy video that he supposedly worked on for half a year+
>>16977446He's right about everything though
>>16977447what was his conclusion? my mom doesn't let me watch YouTube so I can't view it
>>16977448>>16977447>10 mins in >delta v can be foot/s Stopped watchingAlso why the fuck he has to explain delta v, rocket ecuation, thrust weight in every single fucking video?
>>16977450>delta v can be foot/sThat's a correct statement. How are you such a baby that you're offended at nothing? You people are worse than literal trannies
>>16977450pads out the length.
>>16977451welcome to /sfg/. say anything out of the Musk glorification orthodoxy and you generate seethe.
>>16977453Meds now bro wtf does that post have to do with musk
>>16977457We are closer to a working Dreamchaser than a working Starship#truthnuke
>>16977460Who hurt you?
>>16977447>He's right about everything thoughYou can't point out a single thing that was 'right' because you didn't watch the video.
>16977456^there he goes again.
>>16977461Elon
>>16977464wtf does that have to do with musk. Take your meds troll.
>>16977466grim
SOON
>>16977469>>16977470>>16977471>>16977472>>16977473Wrong.
>>16977470 Cock
>>16977466
stop with the fucking slop
>>16977467New adams for the x15 victim
Maybe v3 can carry a cubesat named "200 T" to LEO
>>16977479Stop. LITERALLY STOP. I have to keep this thread open all day just to check your ass, Elon hater!
>>16977384https://youtu.be/eov1mmCWm84&t=328
Glory to Mengzhou, glory to Lanyue, droptanks are the future
>>16977485They are both so fucking basedTrump alpha and elon is a sigma
>>16977485And a ching-chong nip-nong to too young lady
>>16977485holy fucking based
implessive
r/starlink is going absolutely insane over a mild increase in price
>>16977529Staging
>>16977534>Page 8>Images 163
>>16977534Not going to use your thread, even when this one hits page 10 and image limit. Fuck you.
Did that cargo dragon meet up with ISS yet?
The early stager bumped this thread to page 10. How will/sfg/ react?
STAGING >>16977585>>16977585>>16977585
>>16977586And thank goodness for that.