1970s Football Magazines Question

Valerie Bertinelli from "One Day A Time" in a John Riggins Redskins jersey.

I had a Sonny Jurgensen Jersey that style when I was a kid.

I no longer have the shirt but I do have a few pictures of me in the jersey.

I seem to recall that back in the late 1960s early 1970s there was a Football magazine that had some pinup or centerfold like photos of models wearing just football jerseys. It might have just come out at the beginning of the football season, maybe it was Playboy's football preview for the preseason or one of the regular Football magazines preseason issue, but I am about 90% certain it was a football oriented magazine not a men's magazine. My Brother had them and I am not sure if he remembers the magazine he might remember the photos/posters, but I'm not sure if he would recall the exact magazine. The reason I think it might have been just a special preseason issue is there didn't seem to be very many of these. I think it was also one of these one model/picture per issue thing. I think maybe they had four at the most, although I think my brother only had two.  Maybe it was because the magazine folded? I don't think it was a one-shot parody. This has been driving me nuts for years trying to figure this out.

Now-a-days with all the various porn magazines and online websites the sexy image of a girl in nothing but a sports jersey is about as common as a sports card from the late 1980s, or pictures of cats on the internet. Back in the sixties (or seventies) however it wasn't too overdone. These particular magazine images I'm looking for were tastefully done no nudity (at least I think there was no nudity). Color photo not drawing.

Kind of like this except not as provocative.

The pinups were of beautiful girls in a football jersey that is big enough for them to use as a nightgown, the way this image used to be done, now they tend to wear cut-off Jerseys to show more skin. I don't recall all the details, they might have had on white shorts or panties under the jersey, but I think they had nothing, or gave that illusion of nothing. The pinups I am looking for also might have had them holding a football, or with a football helmet, holding the helmet or lying near one or perhaps wearing it.

Something more along these lines, except shot in a photography studio.

Or like this. She sure is cute.

I seem to recall one of them was a blond with long hair in a straight style of the time wearing a white jersey of the Dolphins, Bills, Chargers or some other team's white jersey, either holding a ball or a helmet of that team.

Like many older pinups pre 1980s the effect was sexy without lingerie or showing too much skin. Yeah it was more like Gwen Verdon in Damn Yankees (and the promos) than anything from today.

UPDATE: If I recall correctly the main part of the magazine was black and white on newspaper type stock paper. The "centerfold" or "pinup" whatever you want to call it was the only thing in color. Of course since my memories are 40 some years from the mind of a 5 or 6 year old reality might be very different from the stored memory. Apparently six years ago I had asked about these things on the Ebay sports forums and a trading card forum with no replies or results.

A Collection Acquisition

Recently I acquired a collection of cards from some friends. The cards were the collection of their son, who is about 20 years younger than I am (somewhere between 18-22 years younger. He is late 20s). I understand that it might be just some of the collection, but it seems like they found most or all of the collection. If there were, there wouldn't be much more. I feel a little bad about it because the son doesn't know his old card collection is now gone from their basement unless they have since told him about it. He moved out from their home a few years back didn't take it then and is now married. I think the wife wouldn't allow the collection in their home if she even knew about it. She is a strange one.

As expected the collection is mostly early 1990s mixed card companies/sets. The height of the "Junk Wax" years. It is pretty much from 1992 to 1995 maybe a 1996 card or two. The bulk of the collection is in a card sorting/storage box that has two rows of five sections for cards (like this one, or rather exactly this one), the bottom of the box has finger holes at each section so you can push the cards from underneath to take the stack out of the box.

There were also three binders/albums. One was baseball cards sorted by team mostly (if not all) just 1993 Topps, the order seems random maybe it is by favorite team at the time, or standings order. Another binder is football then baseball cards sorted by player, apparently in some sort of favorites order. The last binder is Mostly football sorted by team, again maybe in favorite team order, and then a page or two of multi-sport.

In the box it is mostly cards I don't collect much of - Basketball. Then there is some football and baseball plus about a dozen Sports Illustrated For Kids multi-sport cards, which of curse come from the magazine (some were separated well, others, not so well). There are some non-sport cards which include: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Marvel Comics/X-Men, Pacific Desert Shield (looks like he had gotten a couple of packs and those packs were exact duplicates), and some cards I NEVER EVER NEVER in a Zillion years wanted to ever own New Kids On The Block (only about 5 so maybe he just got a pack to see what they were like). Gee maybe I should chase that set? /sarcasm.

Water damaged cards and TMNT stickers/puzzles (sticker removed)

Some of the Ninja Turtle cards were the puzzle backs from the stickers with the stickers removed. Unfortunately there were also a few water damaged cards in the bunch. The dad admitted he one time spilled water on the box or the box was exposed to a washing machine flood or some such accident involving liquid. More likely he spilled some beer. Some of them will be OK for filler cards. There were some I tried to save that were stuck together but of course when separated they ripped and tore, so I might just recycle those few. OH why couldn't it have been the NKOTB cards?

I've only done some minor sorting by sport and a basic overview and orienting them the same way. Some of them I will add to my PC, others I might try to sell or trade, maybe give away. The Non-sport cards are still mixed up, not separated. I am in the process of sorting the Basketball eventually into team lots. Right now I have them somewhat sorted by card maker then year. I will put what I have up for trade on my Trade Stuff page.

I am surprised by the basketball ones I plan on keeping, because other than the Bullets, I will be keeping some Team Logo cards from 1994/95 Hoops. That year they made team cards for all the teams with the Team Logo on the front in front of a colorful background with a team related trivia question on back, they also made an NBA Logo card that had the answers to the trivia questions on its back.

These are the Team Logo Cards I need from 1994/95 Hoops Basketball:

395 Cleveland Cavaliers
403 LA Lakers
404 Miami Heat
405 Milwaukee Bucks
407 New Jersey Nets
414 San Antonio Spurs
417 Washington Bullets

Man it is fun going through this stuff. I don't mind going through medium sized collections like this and would like to get more of this type of thing from time to time, preferably ones that are older and mostly baseball with little or no basketball. Maybe some older non-sport collections that have NO NKOTB, or Magic The Gathering/Pokemon type games.

Kirk's Knook: The REAL Reason to get the SI Swimsuit Issue

From my regular Non-Cards Blog a Little more eye candy (some of it literally).

Kirk's Knook: The REAL Reason to get the SI Swimsuit Issue

A Little Eye Candy

Not sure of the history of this particular card, so I can't give many details about it. I'm not even sure when it was made or the series it may have come from. Kathy Ireland got her claim to fame by being a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model and was the even more prestigious cover model on the 25th Anniversary Issue. She still has that cute "innocent/not-so-innocent girl next door" look about her. About all I can say about this card is I got it from Ebay (of course) in June of 2008 and paid $10 delivered Max. I think I got if for $5 - $7 can't remember the exact price. Even though it looks black in the scan her facsimile signature and the partial borders are gold.

That same day (02 June 2008) I got a  sexy Manon Rheaume card a 1993 Ballstreet card. OK so it's not as sexy and she's not in a swimsuit (neither is Kathy on that card), she's wearing a long sleeved sweatshirt and khaki shorts. Apparently that was an insert/freebie or attached to an issue of Ballstreet Magazine. So maybe the Kathy Ireland card is a similar deal (a card that was an insert to a magazine)

I didn't scan the back of the Manon card. I had scanned the front a few years back and it is in my photobucket but forgot I had it there., but not the back. I don't like to use my photobucket for the images in my blogs because PB gets blocked at work and I sometimes like to do edits and check how things look at work from a different machine than the one I post stuff from.

[Update: work no longer blocks photobucket but I still tend to forget what I have there and neglect it. I would delete most of the stuff there but I don't know what (if any) images I have linked from there to this or other blogs I have]

EDITED: To add scan of Manon Rheaume card back.

Vintage Ramskins 3 Feb - Part 2 Philadelphia

OK so here is part 2 of my sportlots card onslaught for 03 February 2012. The Philadelphia Cards. I don't have much to say about these cards other than I like them and I don't want to go into the whole contract thing about Philadelphia Cards vs. Topps and the NFL vs. AFL and then the merge later on thing. Other blogs and card websites tell the story much better than I ever could. So just enjoy the cards.

First up is the only Redskin in this batch of four cards.EEK this card is as old as I am.

1965 Philadelphia 194 Vince Promuto - Redskins

 Next up a trio 1966 Philadelphia's. I like this particular year of Philly cards probably because the yellow banner at the top looks kind of like the vintage magazine covers from that era Like Sports Illustrated. OK so maybe not exactly, I'm not sure if any magazines from that era had a yellow (or some other color) banner at the top, but it looks like it should be on a magazine. One of my first cards from this set is Merlin Olsen's Card #102 (which I feature in my blog logo at top - or one of my blog logos if it currently is not featured)

 1966 Philadelphia 98 Marlin McKeever Rams

The odd and slightly annoying thing about these 1960s era Philadelphia cards is the "Guess Who?" questions on the back, the answers given are to a question on another card. I'm not sure how they determined which answer to put on which card they appear to be totally random. For instance this card's back (card 98) gives the answer for card number 42's question and the answer for this card's question is found on card number 154. A better way to do it is to put the answer on the next card, then that will leave one card without a question? Another way it has been done is to put the answer at the bottom of the card and upside down.

1966 Philadelphia 98 Marlin McKeever Rams (back)

So here is is QB from the 1965 Los Angeles Rams team. Bill Munson played on the Rams from 1964-67, his played on a few other teams until 1979. Tragically Bill died at age 58 found drown in his swimming pool on 10 July 2000.

1966 Philadelphia 101 Bill Munson - Rams

This next card is one of the Team Play cards which even though there are Rams in the picture, the card and the play is actually for the Minnesota Vikings. That year the card set was organized alphabetically by The Teams city, the card order was the Team card usually a team photo (1966 was the Atlanta Falcons first season so their team card featured the team logo), the featured players and an In Action Play card (again a team logo card for Atlanta). That is part of why I like many of the vintage years the cards were well organized. Now who knows what their reasons for the particular order they put the cards in is? The play on this card (from the game played 03 October 1965) gained a first down for Fullback Bill Brown despite Merlin Olsen's efforts spoiled by Larry Bowie.

1966 Philadelphia 117 Minnesota Vikings Team Play Card

1966 Philadelphia 117 Minnesota Vikings Team Play Card (back)

Vintage 60s Merlin Olsen Card

A fairly recently acquired card I got from one of my favorite players of one of my favorite teams when I was a kid. Merlin Olsen who played on the Los Angeles Rams from 1962 - 1976. His Rookie card is a 1964 Philadelphia card I don't have that one yet, but I did get this 1966 Philadelphia card recently. It has a little corner creasing action down in the lower left corner (the scan shows it a little). Just a few days before this one arrived I was waltzing through my cards and noticed I already had one. I thought it looked familiar.

1966 Philadelphia Football Merlin Olsen #102

Besides the fact that he was one of my favorite players on one of my fave teams growing up I like this card for a few other reasons; His fierce look posed as it may very well be, and the way the design of the card looks like a Sports Illustrated cover.