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Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Did Our Fight For Marriage Equality Result In Legalizing Polygamy?
Well, the wingnuts were right after all.
Remember when the fight for marriage equality began and all
those folks — like Frothy Mix Santorum and Mike Huckleberry Hound — came out
swinging that if we were to allow The Gays to get married it would open the
floodgates for people to have multiple spouses — polygamy — and people to marry
their children, their dogs or houses or books or lamps?
It’s happened.
Last Friday a federal
judge overturned much
of Utah’s law banning polygamy, proving Santorum was right that —
What? The overturning of the law has nothing to do with marriage
equality? In fact, it really has nothing to do with marriage at all? Sister Wives say what?
Yes, Sister Wives; the Utah case involved a suit filed by
Kody Brown and his “wives” — Meri, Janelle, Christine, and Robyn — all featured on
the TLC “documentary” Sister Wives. Brown’s argument was
that Utah’s anti-polygamy laws infringed upon his Mormon religious practice — his
religious freedom — and the privacy of him and his wives.
Well, District Court Judge Clark Waddoups — a George W. Bush
appointee … so all y’all wingnuts can save your Thanks Obama for another time — agreed, though the decision still says
it is illegal in Utah to be legally
married to more than one person at the same time.
So, what exactly was overturned?
The polygamy laws
in Utah go far beyond limiting an individual to only one marriage license, the
statute also prohibits “cohabitation,” referring to any situation in which a
married person “purports to marry another person or cohabits with another
person.”
See, even though Kody Brown only is legally married to just
one of his wives — he has had “spiritual” commitment ceremonies with the others — the fact that he has a living arrangement that
includes other individuals he refers to as wives — deemed “religious
cohabitation” in the Mormon context of multiple marriages — was a violation of
the law.
So, you see, Kody Brown is not going to be able to marry
anyone else unless he divorces the one wife to whom he is legally wed.
And though conservatives may try to continue demonizing The
Gays by claiming polygamy is part of the slippery slope of same-sex marriage,
polygamy is actually the result of the very same “religious liberty” that people like
Santorum and Huckabee claim marriage equality infringes upon.
The Gays and their fight for equality did not bring on the legalization
of polygamy, or bigamy, or incest, or marrying an inanimate object … though
Karen Santorum might be hard-pressed to prove she hasn’t done that.
Just sayin’.
Tuesday, July 03, 2012
Mormons Declare Their Independence From The Church
A group of about 150 Mormons, from Utah, Arizona, Idaho and elsewhere, gathered together in a public park in Salt Lake City last weekend and signed a “Declaration of Independence from Mormonism.”
Yes, y'all, in what is seen as a rare act of collective revolt, these Mormons quit the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after decades of disagreement for some over issues ranging from polygamy to gay marriage.
After signing their declaration, the men and women hiked up Ensign Peak--scaled in 1847 by Brigham Young to survey the spot where his Latter-day Saints would build a city--and, at the top, they gave three loud shouts of “Freedom,” cheered, clapped and hugged.
Among the reasons cited by those resigning are the church’s political activism against same-sex marriage, doctrinal teachings that conflict with scientific findings or are perceived as racist or sexist, as well as the Mormons’ explanation of the practice of polygamy; the church renounced plural marriage when Utah sought statehood.
Asked about the resignations, Michael Purdy, a church spokesman said the church--which calls itself the one “true” Christian faith--loves and respects each member: "People make their own decisions about the direction they will follow in life. While there are very few who take this action, it is sad to see someone choose to leave. We wish them well.”
Odd, though, that Purdy doesn't mention what happens to those who leave the church. Mormon culture often stigmatizes those who fall away, leaving some without social or business connections. See, to quit the church, Mormons must submit a formal letter asking that their names be removed from church rolls. It's a very public resignation, and one that comes with consequences.
Basically, they're banished. Which, really, isn't wishing people 'well' is it?
Robin Hansen, who signed the declaration, did so over what she calls a “culture of abuse” which she believes is cultivated by church teachings promoting obedience. Her husband did not, could not, join her in leaving the faith because he works in a church-related business and could lose his job if he doesn’t maintain his membership.
Zilpha Larsen, organizer of the event--resignmormon.blogspot.com--says, “It’s been a hard journey and this is a symbolic end. I just hope that it boosts people up and helps them feel more comfortable in their decision.” Larsen collected the letters of resignation from each participant and sent them off to the church.
Kris Fielding, a sixth-generation Mormon, traveled from Phoenix for the resignation and said he represented those Mormons who did not yet have the courage to do so, like his wife, who worries that she might be ostracized from her family if she anticipated.
Fielding left the church because of his local church leader’s response to his questions about polyandry and polygamy in the early church. “I went to him looking for a faithful perspective. He called my wife and told her she needed to find a new husband.”
He chose to find a new church, and says he is relieved by his decision.
Life is so fluid. People change as we grow and learn, and religion and politics should do the same. Social mores adapt and change as people change, and if these "churches" and political groups don't follow suit, they are soon seen as as old and antiquated, and of no use or value in these times.
If the church doesn't change--and I mean any and all churches--then their congregations will look elsewhere.
source
Yes, y'all, in what is seen as a rare act of collective revolt, these Mormons quit the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after decades of disagreement for some over issues ranging from polygamy to gay marriage.
After signing their declaration, the men and women hiked up Ensign Peak--scaled in 1847 by Brigham Young to survey the spot where his Latter-day Saints would build a city--and, at the top, they gave three loud shouts of “Freedom,” cheered, clapped and hugged.
Among the reasons cited by those resigning are the church’s political activism against same-sex marriage, doctrinal teachings that conflict with scientific findings or are perceived as racist or sexist, as well as the Mormons’ explanation of the practice of polygamy; the church renounced plural marriage when Utah sought statehood.
Asked about the resignations, Michael Purdy, a church spokesman said the church--which calls itself the one “true” Christian faith--loves and respects each member: "People make their own decisions about the direction they will follow in life. While there are very few who take this action, it is sad to see someone choose to leave. We wish them well.”
Odd, though, that Purdy doesn't mention what happens to those who leave the church. Mormon culture often stigmatizes those who fall away, leaving some without social or business connections. See, to quit the church, Mormons must submit a formal letter asking that their names be removed from church rolls. It's a very public resignation, and one that comes with consequences.
Basically, they're banished. Which, really, isn't wishing people 'well' is it?
Robin Hansen, who signed the declaration, did so over what she calls a “culture of abuse” which she believes is cultivated by church teachings promoting obedience. Her husband did not, could not, join her in leaving the faith because he works in a church-related business and could lose his job if he doesn’t maintain his membership.
Zilpha Larsen, organizer of the event--resignmormon.blogspot.com--says, “It’s been a hard journey and this is a symbolic end. I just hope that it boosts people up and helps them feel more comfortable in their decision.” Larsen collected the letters of resignation from each participant and sent them off to the church.
Kris Fielding, a sixth-generation Mormon, traveled from Phoenix for the resignation and said he represented those Mormons who did not yet have the courage to do so, like his wife, who worries that she might be ostracized from her family if she anticipated.
Fielding left the church because of his local church leader’s response to his questions about polyandry and polygamy in the early church. “I went to him looking for a faithful perspective. He called my wife and told her she needed to find a new husband.”
He chose to find a new church, and says he is relieved by his decision.
Life is so fluid. People change as we grow and learn, and religion and politics should do the same. Social mores adapt and change as people change, and if these "churches" and political groups don't follow suit, they are soon seen as as old and antiquated, and of no use or value in these times.
If the church doesn't change--and I mean any and all churches--then their congregations will look elsewhere.
source
Tuesday, February 10, 2009
Why Wyoming! Who Knew?
from the Casper Star Tribune:
In Wyoming, the House Joint Resolution 17, also known as the "Defense of Marriage" resolution--like because gay folks might like a wedding in their future, that a war has been declared on marriage--failed by a vote of 35-25.
Now this doesn't mean the folks in Wyoming are all hot'n'bothered for the gays to come up there and get married. There is a law already in place stipulating that only marriages between a man and woman are valid. But the law also says that Wyoming must recognize valid unions performed in other states, such as forward-thinking Massachusetts and progressively-inclined Connecticut.
Rep. Owen Petersen, a Republican Repugnant of course, says his office has been flooded with letters of support for his legislation. His co-sponsor, Rep. Edward Buchanan, another Republican, go figure, says, and this is rich, that since his "Defense of Marriage" resolution has failed, Wyoming may be forced to recognize other unacceptable unions.
According to this bonehead: '"If two people of the same sex can marry, why can't heterosexual couples have more than one spouse?"'
I love when they trot out that old chestnut, but he forgot the one about people being able to marry their dogs, 'cuz you know, first it's the gays, then the bigamists, then those folks inclined to a little bestiality in their lives.
But here's a kicker. Rep. Pat Childers, a Republican who voted down the measure.....what? a Republican? Huh? What? Huh?
Ah, okay now I see. Childers has a gay daughter, so he understands what it means to be gay, to know a gay person. Childers said his daughter, who lives with her partner in Montana, is a 'smart, productive member of society who deserves the same rights that her straight peers take for granted.'
'"Folks, till my dying breath there isn't anybody in this country who could say that she is a terrible person, or someone that needs to have their rights restricted," Childers said.'
Nicely said, Pat. I like you, you Republican!
But be careful; those nasty Repugnants will use your words against you come election time. You queer-friendly proponent of equal rights for all. How dare you, sir!
Wait though. It's not just Pat Childers. Rep. Sue Wallis, another Republican--is that all they have up there?-- called the resolution "state-sponsored bigotry," saying it is based religious prohibitions found in the Old Testament.
So, there are good Republicans and bad Repugnants? In Wyoming, of all places.
Wallis quoted Leviticus--which includes prohibitions on shaving, haircuts, tattoos, charging interest on loaned money and gathering firewood on Saturday.
Oh dear Jeebus, if all that's true, I am going to Hell. My only hope is that it's a Special Ring in Hell where they have Butt-Less Chaps night, serve Cosmos and the Cher Farewell Tour goes on FORever.
Rep. Patrick Goggles; a Democrat? In Wyoming? He opposes the resolution because he understands that as a representative of The People, he represents All the People--including gay people. '"I look upon this state as the Equality State and I urge you to maintain that status as the Equality State."'
The LGBT community called the defeat of the resolution an important victory. '"We are grateful that the Wyoming House of Representatives stood up for equality and refused to write discrimination into the state Constitution," said Joe Solmonese, president of Human Rights Campaign, a LGBT group based in Washington, D.C. '
Becky Vandeberghe, chairwoman of No Gay No Way, er, I mean, WyWatch--a group that supports legislation that promotes "sanctity of marriage," called Friday's vote a '"grave injustice."'
She went on to say, in that way that only narrow-mined folks can, that '"The elitist legislators decided not to accurately represent the people of Wyoming, and we certainly do hope that their constituents will take a look at their voting record and keep track of it for the election in 2010."'
Oh, they'll be watching Becky.
They'll be watching Pat Childers and Sue Wallis and Patrick Goggles, and realizing that equality is for everyone. They'll be watching those that stand up for all people.
Because it's the right thing to do.
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